philbo
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Remo223 said:
AHEM... all things are possible. K frame 45 acp 5 shot revolver:
http://www.taurususa.com/product-details.cfm?id=119&category=Revolver
44 Special or the 45 ACP
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AHEM... all things are possible. K frame 45 acp 5 shot revolver:
http://www.taurususa.com/product-details.cfm?id=119&category=Revolver
Own or have owned most of what has been described in one form or another. Have 'largely settled' into a Kahr P-45, at this time. In the winter you might find me with a Model 21, 19-4 or something else in the L or N frame area. I do not favor the light .44's 296, 396, Charter. Can't make myself pay the going freight for a 696. My other revolver is a Model 60-10, 3" in .357 which can be a handful but +P+ is the usual fodder.
To the degree you can afford it, enjoy exploring your curiousity.
To the degree you can afford it, enjoy exploring your curiousity.
Usmc-1
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maybe Im a bit naive , but Ive never shot .45 ACP in revolver , Ishot thousands of rounds through my 1911 , just curious how the round performs in a revolver?
Scipio Africanus
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Buy 'em both and carry as your whim dictates. You can't go wrong with either. Happy Shooting!
For fast offhand shooting I do better with revolvers. I'm quicker from the holster and more accurate with a K-frame revolver than with any semiauto I own or have fired to any great extent. I prefer to CC a 1970's vintage 3" steel J-frame in summer clothes and a 4" K-frame in winter, but if I wanted to carry a large bore revolver I might consider a Taurus Tracker .44 mag, but would carry it loaded with .44 special ammo, probably Hornady's 165 grain Critical Defense. Yeah, it has just a 5-shot cylinder but it only weighs about 2 lbs in a steel frame and is available with a 2" bbl for CC. If Taurus build quality is as good as I hear it is nowdays, I consider the price (around $450-$500) to be fairly reasonable considering today's hyper-inflated prices.
The Tracker has one obvious drawback though if the owner develops a yearning to fire .44 mag ammo in his/her gun, namely RECOIL. Firing a box or two of full power 44 mag factory ammo in a 30 ounce, 2" bbl, snubnose revolver strikes me as a particularly unpleasant way to expend an hour of range time and somewhere around $50-$75 worth of ammo.
The Tracker has one obvious drawback though if the owner develops a yearning to fire .44 mag ammo in his/her gun, namely RECOIL. Firing a box or two of full power 44 mag factory ammo in a 30 ounce, 2" bbl, snubnose revolver strikes me as a particularly unpleasant way to expend an hour of range time and somewhere around $50-$75 worth of ammo.
I own 4 revolvers chambered in .44 spl. It is a great round and fun to shoot. However, it has one drawback and that is trying to find cases and ammo. The cases are expensive and ammo leaves a lot to be desired.
I was smart enough back 10 years ago to buy 4k cases at a ridiculous price by todays standards.
The .45 acp is cheaper and has more available. The .44 Spl isn't dead by a long shot but it is handicapped.
I was smart enough back 10 years ago to buy 4k cases at a ridiculous price by todays standards.
The .45 acp is cheaper and has more available. The .44 Spl isn't dead by a long shot but it is handicapped.
CraigC
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Not sure I understand that, .44Spl brass is readily available and costs $5 more per 500rds than .45ACP, or about the same as .44Mag. As far as factory ammo, the .44Spl is one cartridge that definitely only sees its true potential through handloading.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/default.aspx?productNumber=941455237
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/default.aspx?productNumber=941455237
DM~
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Yes i do...
And as to why i prefer the 357 mag to the 44 spl.: In my test, both with factory level loads, the 357 mag. is a better all around cartridge, gives better penetration and in my test, it has worked better on live targets too.
Sure, you can hop up the 44 spl., but that's why they invented the 44 mag.! If you want a mag., just buy one, that's what i did LONG ago...
DM
Smaug
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45 ACP, due to ammo choices
It also has a slightly larger bullet: 0.452" vs. 0.429"
Reload-wise, I think it also has the slight advantage, since it will likely be cut for moon clips, which are very quick to reload.
It also has a slightly larger bullet: 0.452" vs. 0.429"
Reload-wise, I think it also has the slight advantage, since it will likely be cut for moon clips, which are very quick to reload.
Thanks for getting back to me. I always thought the Spokhandguns conversion was a good idea but never bought one and now they are no longer available. I converted an N frame 357 to handle the 45 ACP cartridge and am very pleased with it.
I have never used the 44 Special very much, (only had one and sold it before I got a lot of load work done) but I have used the 45 long Colt. Even with the original ballistics, (255 grain bullet, +/- 900 fps) I prefer the larger bore. I am one of the few who never saw thee use of the Magnum cartridge for the 357 diameter bore or any bore. A properly loaded 38 Special has always served my needs and when I needed more, I went to a larger caliber.
Stainz
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The 296/396/696 family are L-frames. I bought my 296 new for $349 and my 696 new for $439 the same day locally over eight years ago. The 696 was regular sale price, while the closeout-priced 296 was less than half it's last MSRP - it was an expensive AirLite Ti! Here it is with a Robert Mika pocket holster and the 200gr Gold Dots from Georgia Arms, it's main diet.
The combo fits ~2/3 of my pants' front pockets - a similar, but smaller, 642 gets more carry. With the boot grips, the 296 & those GD's is a bit of a thumper - but it is a great shooter - quite accurate. The spacing is the same as the Charter Arms, so an HKS #CA44 speedloader works fine.
Stainz
The combo fits ~2/3 of my pants' front pockets - a similar, but smaller, 642 gets more carry. With the boot grips, the 296 & those GD's is a bit of a thumper - but it is a great shooter - quite accurate. The spacing is the same as the Charter Arms, so an HKS #CA44 speedloader works fine.
Stainz
I have 5 revolvers chambered for the 44 Special cartridge. I also have 5 revolvers chambered for the 45 ACP. All are N-frame S&Ws. Please do not ask me to pick between the two calibers. How do you think I ended up with 5 of each? (smile)
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