drastic_quench
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I wish Ruger would make a 44 special revolver for a CCW. The only one they've currently got is the 44 mag SRH Alaskan - which is obviously way too much gun if you've got 44 special only in mind.
44 special question
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Lucky Derby
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Well, if you wanted a big bore, with absolutely no felt recoil, it might just be the ticket.
35 Whelen
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I think a 44 Magnum is way too much gun for what 99.99999% of most anyone on this forum would need to do with a handgun to begin with.
35W
Thanks for all the input. This would really be just for recreational purposes, but if I'm going to have it in the house, I would want it to be available for defensive use; everything in the house should be able to be "pressed into service" should the need arise. Ergo, the ammo question...
Thanks for the Georgia Arms tip; I just looked at their website. Are their "unicore hollowpoints" just gold dots?
Cool.... excellent prices.
Tony_the_tiger
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Pretty sure that silvertips won't work on werewolves, unless you find a wolf with extreme aversion to grey polymers.
About the Gold Dot - I don't like them. I shot one into water at around 950 ft/s and the hollowpoint nearly split into two. Yes it is a small sample, yes water is hard on bullets, and yes it is my personal anecdote, but that velocity isn't all that higher than speer loads them and I have questions about whether it would or would not fragment with impact to bone.
About the Gold Dot - I don't like them. I shot one into water at around 950 ft/s and the hollowpoint nearly split into two. Yes it is a small sample, yes water is hard on bullets, and yes it is my personal anecdote, but that velocity isn't all that higher than speer loads them and I have questions about whether it would or would not fragment with impact to bone.
dickydalton
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Another favorite of mine is the Remington 240 Core Loct Hollow Point at 850 FPS. It does a perfect mushroom and penetrates farther than the Barns 200 XPB.
RealGun
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Before casting a shadow on Gold Dots, let's talk more about standard, more scientific tests.
righteoushoot
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I would also love to see that. I have been eyeing this option though. Not cheap, but I hear quality work.
http://www.clementscustomguns.com/gp100.html
Lucky Derby
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This. Specifically the Match Champion.
RustyShackelford
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Gemini Customs....
If you want a custom Ruger snub, you could purchase a .44magnum AK or contact www.geminicustoms.com & see if they can hook you up with a snub .44 revolver.
The shop does great work & is highly rated for Ruger DA revolvers; GP100, SP101, Super Redhawk, etc.
You could also buy a Charter Arms .44 Bulldog DA only. I've read a few online posts saying the recent(2013-2014) QC is much better than models in the past.
If you want a custom Ruger snub, you could purchase a .44magnum AK or contact www.geminicustoms.com & see if they can hook you up with a snub .44 revolver.
The shop does great work & is highly rated for Ruger DA revolvers; GP100, SP101, Super Redhawk, etc.
You could also buy a Charter Arms .44 Bulldog DA only. I've read a few online posts saying the recent(2013-2014) QC is much better than models in the past.
RealGun
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Clement's work in that description does not replace the cylinder. It is a rebore, within which the chamber walls will safely allow it. No change in round count or cylinder timing, as would be needed for .44 Special.
Tony_the_tiger
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I don't have the setup for that so I must depend on personal experience and anecdote. But I understand where you are coming from. The same could be said for those in favor of the round. My post should only be taken as personal opinion that informs my personal choices that I shared here to benefit the discussion.
RealGun
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Oh, I don't think so. Those in favor of a product are not taking swipes at someone's livelihood. On an anecdotal level though, it cannot be denied that you had a problem with one round in an unusual scenario.
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CraigC
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Correct, the 10mm and .41Spl do not require a new cylinder but the .44Spl does, as well as a conversion to a five-shot configuration.
Frizzman
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I've had a Rossi 720 since the 1990's and it has been a fine revolver. Rossi made some good guns during that time and the 720 is one of them. They stopped making them because interest in .44 Spl revolvers was weak. The old 246 gr RNL at about 600 fps was the common factory load and was feeble...The 720 is a medium frame...S&W K Frame size...all stainless five shot revolver and the action is basically same as S&W DA...I use my own handloads for range and woods bumming. I have been using Hornady Critical Defense ammo for carry...My other .44 Spl is a 3" S&W 624...I also run .44 Spl handloads in my Ruger 77/44.
Kayaker 1960
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The down side of .44 special is the cost of factory ammo is quite expensive. Last time I bought some it was more than double the price if common defensive calibers. I recently shot both .44 special and .44 mag at 10 yards with my S&W 629 4" I was very pleased with the accuracy of both. .44 special was very soft shooting.
RealGun
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Certainly from a 629, it would be. DA guns dedicated to .44 Special are more likely of the L frame size/weight and short enough barrel to carry concealed. Nevertheless, I think it is generally true that .44 Special is not intimidating or any particular challenge to shoot.
To me, the round reminds of .45 ACP with a good snap load, more or less standard FMJ type...you know, 5 grains of Bullseye in a 5" steel gun and all that.
Tony, the Gold Dot was designed to expand at lower velocities, say 850 to 875 fps (and they will). Push them faster and they will come apart. I have seen this in my own tests and Speer has made this known to the consumers. If you are able to drive a 200 gr. .44 slug at 950 fps. then I would choose a hard cast SWC and forget about hollowpoints. FWIW I don't have any problem with a Gold Dot coming apart inside a gremlin anyway. Just my opinion.
dickydalton
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The Remington Core-Loct 240 Hollow Point just does a perfect mushroom at 850 FPS and penetrates well. I'll load a few to 950 and see what they do.
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