.45 ACP a bad choice for first handgun

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Absolutely nothing wrong with .45 Mil Spec 1911A1. In fact, that might be the ideal gun to learn on. I could handle one easily when I was 10 years old. And I was a skinny kid.

What your friend wants for a first gun is what HE wants...not you.
 
Absolutely nothing wrong with .45 Mil Spec 1911A1. In fact, that might be the ideal gun to learn on. I could handle one easily when I was 10 years old. And I was a skinny kid.

What your friend wants for a first gun is what HE wants...not you.
A SA 1911 Mil-spec in .45 was my first handgun......no problems yet.
 
Try to rent a sig P226 or Cz 75 from a range and make him shot with them in 9mm. If he still prfers the .45 then let him make his choice as he wants.
 
If you can use it and control it, there's no reason not to go with .45acp. I'm looking at a glcok 21sf for my first gun and I'm already getting pretty good with it :)

Just let him practice and use different things and he'll figure out what he likes.
 
Man there is a lot of silly macho posturing in this thread.

I know a pistol may be a phallic symbol to some of you, but come on guys, talk about over-compensation.:evil:

The question really is basic.

1st.
Does he want to be a gun owner or a competent shooter?

If he want to be a competent shooter then he needs to practice the fundamentals of basic pistol marksmanship.
He will need to practice these for thousands of iterations if he is ever going to become a "good" pistol shooter.
He also needs a good dry-fire regimen.

So caliber choice should be evaluated under this paradigm.

Optimally, the novice starts with a rimfire handgun and then quickly proceeds to a centerfire handgun.

The rimfire is retained to increase volume of practice and to decrease associated costs.
The choice of centerfire caliber is not nearly as important if the shooter is already developing solid fundamentals on the rimfire platform.

Cost may be a consideration when choosing the centerfire caliber. This is especially the case if the shooter has no intentions of reloading and has no shooting partners that reload ammo.

If the cost of ammo is prohibitive the amount of practice will decrease.
If the shooter has plenty of money or access to cheap reloads then it doesn't matter what centerfire caliber he transitions to, as long as his use of this caliber is not hindering the development of solid technique.

The fact of the matter is, if you have solid fundamentals you will know if a particular caliber is inducing a flinch.
If you don't, then you won't.
 
If your firend is a lady then 9mm will be best. If your friend is a man then there is only a few choices and they all start with a 4. :) Just kidding of course.
My first handgun was a 1911. I shot that thing very well and I was 16 at the time. I also shoot 9mm very well but I am just a 45 kinda guy.
Either a 9mm or 45 will work great I am sure. I have met a lot of new shooters who got a 40 and didn't shoot it well, maybe because of the "snappiness" of the round. Just go have some fun and get him shooting. Everything else will work out.
 
What is wrong with you? There is nothing wrong with a 45acp. I own several caliber handguns to include your 9mm but I carry a 1911. I can hit a paper plate at 100 yds. with 80% accuracy. Can you hit one at 25 yds?
 
Dr. Bear wrote: "Unless you're his wife, let him make his own decision."

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
 
IMHO, your friend is in the best position to choose the pistol that's best for his needs But you all may want to take a trip to a range that rents different pistols, to see what works best for him. We're all making assumptions about what the guy wants to do - or not do - with his pistol. Maybe he wants to carry, maybe not. Maybe he just like making bigger holes in paper, who knows... It's up to the buyer, but no reason why his friends can't show a new shooter a range of options, in terms of types of handgun, caliber options, etc...

It's not just a question of pistol caliber - he may find .45 in a Sig or Glock to be preferable to a 1911, for instance. I love my 1911s, but I can control my Sig 220 much better - both are .45s. Just saying, there's lot of options to suit any preference out there...

In terms of cost, ammo prices will probably continue to fluctuate - you can get .45 cheaper than .40 from some web sources.

Bottom line, just go out and have some fun range time, and let the fellow start exploring the options...
 
First handgun should be easy to learn marksmanship and cheap to feed.

Thats a 22 friend.
 
I assume that the "friend" is a grown man and can make decisions for himself. It's nice that you want to be a responsible shooter and advise him to take a lighter option for his first gun, but let him buy the gun that he wants.
 
Let the coworker decide, unless I am reading the OP wrong. Also, keep in mind this individuals need for the weapon. If it is to be used for HD, no reason to steer this person away from a .45, IMHO. Plus, some people actually shoot a .45 better than a 9mm, go figure. My wife is living proof of this. What one person considers to be "too much recoil and blast" or whatever, may not necessarily be so when in the hands of another...even a "beginner."

Let this person shoot a bit, comparing various calibers and models, and then let him make up his own mind. Yes, .45ACP is expensive, but unless this person plans on shooting thousands of rounds per year, the savings do not necessarily outweigh the potential benefits, IMHO.

Nothing wrong with educating this person on the positives and negatives of each caliber. However, to directly steer one towards a particular caliber (based on your preference), could be construed as somewhat of a disservice.

I made this mistake once and happen to regret it.
 
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My first pistol was a .357 Mag revolver; I then went to a .45 ACP Springfield XD. Never had a problem with either gun and or my marksmanship. I am accurate out to 75 yards with the .357 Mag and I would say I'm competant out to 50+ yards with the .45 ACP -- by competant I mean I can keep 90% of my rounds in a 8 to 10 inch grouping at 50 yards. That's good enough to me.:)
 
Springfield XD45 was my first handgun, and I loved it. Several guns later, it is still my favorite. The ammunition expense isn't necessarily a bad thing. It will encourage reloading, which is how one gets the most out of their weapons.
 
.45ACP is fine to start shooting a handgun with. People make a big deal out of recoil. Recoil is not a big deal with handguns. More important are the triggers and how it fits in the shooter's hand. I just got a Glock 30SF and have only shot 230gr factory and reloaded ammo out of it. The felt recoil is far less than a Beretta 96 in .40SW and is about the same as a Beretta 92 in 9mm. I contribute this to the way that it fits nicely in my hand. At 25 yards, I was putting still putting rounds through the same holes.

As far as finances, get a few boxes of factory ammo and see where the pistol is at and then start reloading .45ACP. It will cost you about half as much as factory ammo.
 
My first handgun was a .45ACP. Then I moved and started over. My new first handgun was a .45ACP, again.

My first 9mm wasn't till 5 guns later, and it's technically a .40 with a conversion barrel.

FTR, there's no difference in felt recoil between a G21 or a G19, AFAIC.
 
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