.45 ACP +P can be safely shot in...

[Min]

which guns?

I own a Springfield Armory 1911-A1, a Glock 36, a Norinco 1911, and a Sig P220. I am planning to purchase an HK USP Compact soon, which will round out my .45 collection.

Which of these guns would you shoot +P loads time after time and know it will be able to take it? I'm thinking the HK...

 

[Bobarino]

The HK is designed to handle all the +P you can throw at it. the 1911 is a time tested tough design also. Glock however (if i'm not mistaken here) recommends against using +P ammo in some of their guns due to that fact that they don't have fully supported chambers like the HK does. soemone please correct me if i'm wrong.

Bobby

 

[Handy]

The HK USP full size is one of the few .45s I would shoot many +P rounds through. It has a recoil system that the USP Compact does not. Possibly also a Ruger 90 or a Megastar or CZ-97. All overbuilt.

1911s can take a battering over the long haul just shooting hardball. Using a heavier spring alone doesn't really address the issue (increased slide velocities, etc.) If I were to shoot +P in a 1911 I would consider a Hart's recoil reducer of a comp or something.

I would not use the Norinco or Sig with +P. The Norinco steel is decent, but not all that modern. The thin alloy frame of the Sig is just asking to make your $700 frame to slide fit sloppy.

Hey, just an opinion.

 

[caz223]

The usp series (Usp and usp compact) both are ok with +p and +p+ ammo, but they don't recommend using .45 super in .45 acp's.
There are conversions, though, all of which thoroughly void your warranty.

 

[moxie]

My old Star PD has eaten over a thousand 185 +Ps in addition to 15,000 or so factory and handloaded non +Ps. Alloy frame. Weighs only 25 oz. Still runs great. Eats recoil buffers a little faster with +P 185s, but not much more than when I shoot plain 230 FMJ ball out of it. Also wears a hole in my thumbjoint a bit more, but it's a little one and it heals quick. If you need the power, go for it. The only sure way to keep your gun from wearing out is to never fire it at all.

 

[hksw]

Hi Point for +P and +P+.

 

[1badmagnum]

If I not mistaken most 1911 manufactures offer lifetime warranties to the original owners,so shooting +p+ and wearing out the firearm really wouldnt matter would it?
I consider this fact when purchasing any firearm,the warranty and customer service makes all the difference.
most high quality 1911 designs made of high grade steel should handle +p+.

 

[Sentry]

Glock however (if i'm not mistaken here) recommends against using +P ammo in some of their guns due to that fact that they don't have fully supported chambers like the HK does.

You are mistaken. It's a combat pistol, you can shoot most anything out of it, and it's recommended TO put full powered ammo through them. Pistols don't have "fully supported" chambers either.

 

[Lone_Gunman]

I wouldnt have a problem putting +P through any of them.

I think the Glock is fine for +P. If you can shoot hot 10 mm through a G20, 45 +P through a 21 will be easy.

 

[cratz2]

I wouldn't have a problem putting a constant flow of +Ps through the USP or the Glock. The SIG may be able to take it but I wouldn't do it.

Modern 1911s from SA, Kimber Colt and the custom/semi-custom makers should work just fine but I'd probably use a slightly heavier recoil spring and a shock buff when target shooting, no buff when carrying.

Why exactly do you want to feed a 45 that much +P ammo? For a bigger boom? I mean, any of them should allow you to fire enough of your chosen ammo to prove its reliablity but after that, why not just shoot standard pressure stuff? And how many rounds are we talkin' here? 200 a month? 500 a month? If you put 50 rounds through every other month, any of them will probably last just about forever. If you can afford to put 500 rounds of quality +P HPs through each month, you should be able to afford the down time of sending a broken gun back to the manufacturer.

 

[Nightcrawler]

I just bought a second box of Triton .450SMC to put through my CZ-97B. The thing is way overengineered.

 

[care-less]

G21 has a lot thinner chamber wall section than G20 does!

 

[yankytrash]

Just an FYI, my Norinco's hate, positively hate, fast ammo. Big and slow is more their speed.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

MIN
For what it's worth when I had a Glock 36 I put a lot of +P ammo thru her and never had a problem. I found it to be tough little gun