45 ACP Revolver WHY?????

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dom1104,

Just get the .45 ACP 625 - and load your own .45 Auto Rim loads with the Speer 250gr GDJHP and 255gr LSWC - run them at 850-900 fps - hotter than .45 Colt. Oddly, the ACP cases are tougher - but I like my moonclipped rounds for 'play'... you could hunt with those .45 ARs!

Yesterday saw another 150 ACPs and 30 ARs go down range. I had 210 - then 96 at another range - 48 rd the week before - 534 now. It had an ACP ftf in the next to last moonclip I shot yesterday. It went off on the second try. I think I'll clean it today! Titegroup is fairly clean.

Stainz
 
I don't know that I like my Taurus Tracker 455 45ACP better than my 45 XD's or my 1911's, but I do like it! Fun & easy to shoot, very accurate & there are many different kinds of ammo available. Especially if you hand load.

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Compared with a .357, I find .45 ACP much more pleasant to shoot. Less muzzle blast and the recoil is more of a push than a sharp jab. Aside from that, my 5" M-625 is easily the most accurate handgun I own.

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haven't read all the post but for me even though I own 2 1911s sometimes I'm just too lazy to chase brass all over hell and earth
 
4" or 5" in 625?

I've read up on it, and it seems like people aren't so thrilled with the JM625, and they don't make the standard 4" anymore (although I could probably find one somewhere)

Any opinions on the 4" vs 5" model? I know people seem to prefer the 629 44 mag in 5 inch vs the 4 inch barrel. How about with the 625?
 
As a teenage gun nut I thought those short fat cylinders with the barrel/forcing cone extending into the frame window and tapered barrels were some of the ugliest guns I had ever seen. That was 15 years ago and now im PO'ed that I don't have one cuz there so d**n pretty. Wundudnee, I am particularly angry with you :fire:;)
 
I have the 625 JM and I have replaced the Miculek grips with a Hogue Wood RB that is checkered, and the gold bead front sight with an orange ramp.

Last week at the indoor range where I shoot league I shot a 5 shot 1.67" group at 25 yds double action. The range maste witnessed it and that is the best double action group I've ever shot with any handgun regardless of maker in the last 30+ years of carrying a handgun for a living.

Most of the complaints about the 625 JM is the grip. They shoot fantastic as I use a 185gr JFP from Berry's and I drive it fast with Power Pistol.

The full moon conept is great as I no longer lose my brass on league nights at the range. Nor do I have to chase any in any environment. In practical shooting situations they are easy to locate and retrieve.
 
Does anyone have a Blackhawk with the conversion cylinder or something like the US Firearms SAA that I am looking at that has the .45LC with .45ACP cylinder option?

Really appealing, but I wonder does accuracy stay with the cylinder swap? Probably some POI shift with fixed sights?
 
I do, theirs a big pic of it in post #23 of this thread.
7 1/2" new model blackhawk convertible
It shoots both .45 Colt and acp very accuratly without adjusting the sights.
Ive "heard" that the .357/9mm version has accuracy issues with the 9mm cylinders but I cant confirm that.
 
I shot a 4" 625 the other day, and I think it beat up my hand a bit after 100 rounds or so. I wonder if rubber grips would be better. It seems to have more recoil than my 357. but that has the hogue grips on it. I guess that's why you try before you buy.

Anyone else think that the 45 has more recoil than a 357 magnum in the same size gun/same grips? The tips of my fingers still feel a little weird...
 
I learned recently (after buying and selling 3 semiautos) that I'm a revolver guy. I have a ton of .45ACP reloading components, but no gun for them. But I do have my eye on a S&W 625 that would be a nice companion piece for my Ruger GP100. Someday...
 
CUrrent S&W .45 ACP Revolvers Update

The 625 6" is discontinued as of 01-01-08
the 325PD is also gone from the catalogue

However,
Performance Center
625 5 1/4" BBL with upgraded hammer/Trigger and old
style sear?
325TR = like a PD with a light rail.

Continued Offereings
Model 22 and 22 Model of 1917
Model 25 3" lew Horton Distributor Serial # run.

New Offering

325 NightGuard Scandium frame & Stainless Steel
cylinder and the other doo dahs the NG line has.
 
This seems like an obvious question, but I can't see where anyone's asked it:
Are any of these beautiful gorgeous wheelguns proven for the 45 Super? Correct me if I'm wrong, but that cartridge's external dimensions are identical to the 45 ACP, it's just that some guns can't handle it.

So, I was thinking maybe some of these revolvers are built on 44 Magnum frames and could digest 45 Super as well. I wouldn't have the first clue how to find out without (a) getting a 45 ACP revolver and (b) risking something spectacular and/or tragic.
 
because i dont have one. ill think of a use when i get one..
 
Blindjustice, Tks for the update. :)

jhansman, Welcome to the dark side. No 25/625 yet :confused:. Get ready to live! Was in yer boat 4 yrs back.

BBroadside, S&W 25/625's love 45 Super. Research; 460 Rowland. Also forum member Stainz has posted plenty on this subject and I'm sure he has chimed in this thread somewhere. Nickels.
 
So, if Blackhawk and 26/625 owners have 100 bucks to spare ... a whole new chambering! I'm thinking Clark Custom might be onto something here....

Me, I won't be satisfied until I can get a revolver chambered in 460 S&W Magnum with a spare cylinder in 460 Rowland.
:)
Not really ... I'm quite impressed enough, but seven* chamberings would be pretty impressive for one revolver. Thanks for the info, 20nickels.

* Correct me if I'm wrong, but your 460 S&W would fire 454 Casull, 45 Colt, and 45 Schofield, and your 460 Rowland would fire 45 Super and 45 ACP.
 
* Correct me if I'm wrong, but your 460 S&W would fire 454 Casull, 45 Colt, and 45 Schofield, and your 460 Rowland would fire 45 Super and 45 ACP.
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You could probably squeeze .45 GAP and .45 Auto Rim in there too.
 
* Correct me if I'm wrong, but your 460 S&W would fire 454 Casull, 45 Colt, and 45 Schofield, and your 460 Rowland would fire 45 Super and 45 ACP.
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Add .45 GAP to the list for the 460 Rowland cylinder.

Also note that places like Pinnacle High Performance will machine a .45 Colt cylinder such that it will accept .45 ACP on moon clips and still headspace .45 Colt on the rim. I don't know that such machining would place nicely with higher pressure cartridges like the .454 Casull and .460 S&W. Even if you could get it to work you'd have to get someone to make you moon clips that would work on an X Frame cylinder.

*Dang it, JesseL posted while I was typing and I forgot about .45 AR
 
This thread has been quite informative! I'm very thankful and now have a revolver or two to add to my laughably long wish list.

Question: moon clips work with the star in the middle of the cylinder, correct? (Extractor stars or ejector stars - I'm sure someone will inform me.) So, if you're dealing with a Blackhawk the cylinder doesn't swing out, there's no star, and you load and unload through a gate ... am I on the right track?

So how do you eject rimless cases from a non-swing-out revolver? Is it is special ejector rod or an ordinary one? The only ones I can think of that this question applies to are the Blackhawks in 30 Carbine, 9mm Parabellum, and our beloved 45 ACP.
 
So how do you eject rimless cases from a non-swing-out revolver? Is it is special ejector rod or an ordinary one? The only ones I can think of that this question applies to are the Blackhawks in 30 Carbine, 9mm Parabellum, and our beloved 45 ACP.
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Nothing tricky about it. The ejector rods on single action revolvers like the Blackhawk go all the way down the inside of the case a pushes it out from the inside. The only thing a single action revolver needs a rim for is headspacing the round, and headspacing rimless rounds on the mouth of the case works just as well.
 
Hey ya'll! I'm a new member and the the proud owner of a brand new 625, all the folk's around here are tired of me bending their ears about it. Had the local S&W guru, check it out and chamfer the cyl. and install a hi vis front sight (old eyes). It's a blast to shoot, and ya don't have to chase your brass. Now all I have to do is master that double action, and the pins won't stand a chance.
 
Why did the .45 ACP Night Guard come out on top?

A poll on the offerings of the recent S&W Night Guard line
was taken on a forum. THe Night Guard design has common
features on the N L and K frames
INcluding
* Scandium frame / Stainless Steel cylinder
* Matte Black finish.
* 2 1/2 inch Barrel
* rampe front with Tritium
& rear is Cyl. & SLide Extreme DUty Fixed
* Grips, Pachmayr rubber

Here they are:


N Frames
329 NG .44 Mag. 6 shot
Weight: 29.3 oz O.A.L. 7 3/4"
327 NG .357 Mag. 8 shot
Weight: 27.6 oz O.A.L. 7 3/4"
325 NG .45 ACP/.45 Auto RIm 6 shot
Weight: 28 oz O.A.L. 7 5/8"

L Frames
396 NG .44 Special 5 shot
Weight: 24.2 oz O.A.L. 7 3/8"
386 NG .357 Mag. 7 shot
Weight: 24.5 oz O.A.L. 7 4/8"

K-frame
315 NG .38 Special +P 6 shot
Weight: 24 oz O.A.L. 7"

Note: THe 315 NG was not included as it was
a late entry in the catalogue

WHy on earth did the 325 NG lead the pol with the
.44 SPecial chambered 396 NG a close second?

hmm, Full moon clips, and the non-magnums are
sensible given the weight of the guns and barrel length.

A rational response.

However I think the most compact - the 315 NG also offers
another top choice for a bedside revolver.
or carry piece.
 
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