.45 ACP versus .223; 10 feet away

[DefiantDad]

Maybe comparing these two platforms (just as examples) would help more with apples/apples:

http://www.kriss-usa.com/pistols/vector-sdp-45-acp

http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p556-pistol.aspx

 

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

As I have said before, I don't find my AR comfortable or easy to aim with the buttstock collapsed,

It's a matter of getting used to. I have an AK 74 with a Tantal buttstock. Far more uncomfortable yet I manage. The Tantal is my go to weapon.

When faced with an imminent threat coming around the corner / in my doorway (e.g., bad guy with shotgun or full-auto, etc) - I'm going with the weapon that I have the most confidence in THAT I CAN GET TO THE QUICKEST.

If you're thinking about going for a better weapon AFTER they already got inside your home, your tactics are lacking severely.

Teach u, that is the exact point. Trying to run away from the perp, instead of running to them is wasting valuable seconds. Those seconds will ,"not may" decide who lives or dies. If you can't hit a man sized target in the upper torso or head, at ten feet with your carry weapon. There really is no reason for you to be fooling yourself in as far as thinking that it serves any purpose other than showing that you have a gun.

Running away from an intruder means they are already inside: Tactics = fail. You should already be in a safe place calling 911 and that safe place should have a long gun. From what I've seen at the range with regulars, I'm a better shot than those I see most of the time. I can use a handgun effectively but that doesn't mean it's a better weapon or that it's good enough and why bother going for something better? I'm a good shot with a handgun, I'm a better shot with a rifle.

 

[gym]

Definate kriss. Or AK underfolder. Then whatever I had on me. 45 is good enough to hit a quarter size target at 10 feet, you shouldn't need more than that, Rifles are great but 10 feet is handgun territory or shotgun.

 

[GunnerShotz]

Maybe comparing these two platforms (just as examples) would help more with apples/apples:

http://www.kriss-usa.com/pistols/vector-sdp-45-acp

http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p556-pistol.aspx

Apples to apples based on your original post or in addition to the Other variables also introduced by the drift this thread has taken??

Given 10 feet and I know somebody is coming around the corner, and 13 rounds of .45 vs 30 .223 ... I'll Still take the .223 tyvm ... ONE shot allowed or not

 

[DefiantDad]

Yeah it's hard to do all the various factors but let's narrow it down.

You hear gunshots, you look out the window (or whatever) and you see this guy rampaging through your neighborhood and house, and shooting everyone, and now he's walking up the stairs to your bedroom where you are.

On your bed is the .45 carbine, and a .223 carbine, just lying there ready to use, fully loaded, chambered, whatever. There is also a photograph of a 12 gauge shotgun and a drawing of a 1911 (hahaha).

Which one do you pick up to terminate the threat as he walks into your bedroom, with you just off to the side waiting for him? You got maybe 30 seconds.

 

[TimboKhan]

Annnnnnd, thats enough. Gentle posters, I am closing this because of drift. I would suggest that this isn't a bad topic to discuss, but maybe someone could start a more focused thread on this topic. With that suggestion, good night now.