.45 what to buy and how to make it reliable

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So this is my first time posting anywhere about a pistol. Im looking into buying a RIA .45 but from the research i have done, modifications need to be made in order to make it reliable. I have a budget of about 900$ to work with between buying the gun and modifying it. If someone can give me a little direction it would be of great help.

Mike
 
A lot of the time the way to make a new 1911 reliable is to keep the owner from tinkering with it.
 
RIA should be reliable right out of the box. The custom guns seem to have a break in period but the RIA pistols I have or been around were ready to go
 
You might want to ask the department your applying to (accepted at?) about that then. If they're going to have a particular model and you want to be up to speed as much as possible, then of course it would make sense to get what they already have, though of course they could simply issue one when your enrolled (not sure how that works exactly).
 
The department i am going for uses 9mm/,45 as standard. You can choose either or. I will be putting myself through the academy so a pistol will not be issued to me. For RIA's i was wondering where i can find parts that are compatible. I would like to make the recoil less and from what i understand alot of parts are just drop in and i could do by myself, with minimal tools and maybe an advil or 2
 
Newb, if you have a good 900 to spend why not just get a little higher end firearm? Why not look at the Springfield Loaded, Kimber Customs or Para Ordnance models? They have all of the mods that are normally done to 1911's. Beavertail Grip Safety, Lowered and Flared Ejection Port... stuff like that.
 
Hi Mike. Welcome to this great forum.

This kind of question gets asked all the time on every gun board on the net.
Hopefully this response is helpful to you, as it is the advice that I wish I had received before spending more money than I needed to:

1) Having $900 is a great budget to work with, and there are many very good options available at that price, including most of the major brands.

2) You do not yet know if the RIA, or any other pistol you buy is reliable until you shoot it, and shoot it a lot. You will learn more with a $500 pistol and $400 worth of ammo than anything else you can do. The bottom line, honestly, is this: If you want to learn more, shoot more.

3) Stop thinking about modifications unless you can clearly understand why you are making that particular modification to that particular pistol. This will save you more time and money than anything else I can think of. For example, you use your budget on a basic pistol, and a case (or so) of ammo... you then shoot hundreds and hundreds of rounds through it.. . After doing this you can tell us what it needs. Most will need nothing.

You can worry about the upgrades and nice-to-haves one piece at a time, this way you will actually know if the modification made a difference. (always remember that you will never recover the $ from the modifications you make- unless the modifications were made by a big name custom shop on a big name base pistol i.e. Colt/Springfield/...)

While I know next to nothing about RIA pistols first hand, I hear that they are a very good value. If it was me- at that budget- I would find a used one from a more mainstream brand, like Colt or Springfield simply because it would hold it's value much better.

Hope this helps.
Moses
 
I've never heard of an RIA not running right from the factory most of the time. If you get one that doesn't, get on the 1911 forum and pm Ivan (Blackdragon), the factory rep.
 
For a budget of $900, get a Springfield Loaded. It'll have most of the important mods already-added. This is much cheaper in the long-run and everything was already tested together, which is something you cannot do adding parts & mods piecemeal.

I have both SAs and RIA, honestly, the finishwork on a SA is so much better than on the RIA.
 
Note: I do not (yet) own one of these guns.

Im looking into buying a RIA .45 but from the research i have done, modifications need to be made in order to make it reliable.
Who has been saying this? :confused:

Perhaps there is a semantic issue re: repair vs. modification. If it is unreliable, it needs to be repaired as it is not performing to factory specs.

I have a budget of about 900$ to work with between buying the gun and modifying it.
$500 worth of modifications on a $400 gun? If (hypothetically) it really needed that just to make it reliable, it is not worth buying, IMO.

If someone can give me a little direction it would be of great help.
Buy the model you like, shoot it, note any malfunctions it may have, and if it has consistent malfunctions, contact the importer/final assembler (Advanced Tactical in Pahrump, NV), and let them stand behind their product.
 
My son bought a RIA and the only thing needed to make it reliable was tensioning the extractor.

Going beyond basic reliability, he replaced three parts on the gun: (1) the barrel bushing, to improve accuracy; (2) the firing pin stop (with a small-radius model), to reduce muzzle flip and perceived recoil, and; (3) the slide release (I can't remember the reason).

My son's RIA is as reliable as the Colts he and I own.
 
If you want a 1911, Colt or Springfield is the way to go IMHO. If you want excellent reliability out of the box and are willing to go with a DA format the Ruger KP345 is a great choice.


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Hey DUDE!!

Take it to a range and fire 200 rds, FMJ SWC, JUP. Make sure that it does handle the qual. ammo, eh? RIA has a great warranty, but check your weapon out before you put job-on-the-line, eh?

ANY gun may be rec'd in less than optimum condition....$3K, $300, whatever

(this msg interrupted by hours of family crash/bash.)

b-
 
First, make sure single action autos are acceptable for the position. Many departments do not allow anything but DAO now and a 1911 definately isn't. Check before you spend your money. Find out more than just what calibers are approved.

I like the 1911 and if the academy/department allows it, great. However, I'd recomend buying a Springfield based on two factors. First, you'll get a higher quality pistol for your money. RIA's are decent, but they do have cast frames and some don't hold up so well with very high round counts. I've got a C.D. (same company as RIA) with well over 10,000 rounds on it and the frame is showing some wear. Secondly, Springfield has a very good turn-around time if you should happen to have problems requiring it to be sent in for repair at some point.

Now the larger issue, a 1911 doesn't have to be tinkered with to make it reliable. Buy a good fighting gun and be done with it. The guns you hear about fall into three categories. 1) Race/game guns built too tight. 2) User gunsmithed guns that got screwed up by said user but he won't admit to it. 3) Gun is being used by someone who won't take the time and effort to properly learn the use of a defensive handgun.

Buy the pistol you want/need and make changes ONLY after putting at least 1,000 rounds through it. Lots of stuff gets done to the 1911 that is neither needed nor smart.
 
If I wanted to spend $900 for a service gun I would seriously look into the New HK45. Now in a compact version as well. Can't go wrong with an HK. The reviews are raving.
 
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