45acp Small Primer

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The thread always goes something like this :

" Oh lordy, what am I to do with these small primer 45 acp ? Are they a Nuclear Hazard ? Will they blow up my Kimber ? Can I reload them and still stuff Large Pistol Primers in them ? "

Please explain 45 acp Small Primer Brass to the best of your ability !

I'm hoping we can get this one in our new reloading library !
 
I dont mind em.....keeps me from having to swap out my priming assembly on the press. They work the just as well.

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Already been cussed and discussed.
So let's take the High Road and provide links to prior discussions instead of being snarky, please. If that is too great a hurdle to clear, then perhaps silence is the better form of valor.

I actually rather like them, in that I can set them aside and do a run of 45ACP while the press is set up for SP primers (e.g. when loading 9x19/40S&W). Saves me from having to swap over the primer feed on the 550B.

I don't find it overly hard to separate them out; those that I miss culling and setting aside when emptying the tumbler sure do get sized and the press stops on the priming seating; in that event, I just throw in a already-sized LP replacement case and drive on. At the end of every 100rd run (the size of the primer feed tube), I resize a half-dozen or so LP cases and set them aside to serve as replacements in the next run. It's really not a big deal.
 
Thanks rcmodel.

rbernie, I've never had any luck with the search function here and on other forums, by my remark I got someone else to post links from this forum, about this subject which seems to come up every week. Sorry that I posted!

In reality I also like them as I use them with small rifle primers as I do for all my pistol calibers with no problems. For others YMMV.

In my case I now only need 2 different primer sizes, Small Rifle, and Large Rifle.
 
The thread always goes something like this :

" Oh lordy, what am I to do with these small primer 45 acp ? Are they a Nuclear Hazard ? Will they blow up my Kimber ? Can I reload them and still stuff Large Pistol Primers in them ? "

Please explain 45 acp Small Primer Brass to the best of your ability !

I'm hoping we can get this one in our new reloading library !
Not going to blow up your gun and you won't notice any difference in accuracy. The only difference is the difference itself. If the .45 Auto is the only large primer case you reload you can now only stock small pistol primers, that's an advantage.

I happen to have a lot of large pistol primers on hand so if they convert the .45 Colt to small primer I'm in big trouble!!
 
I reload them only once. I got them from the range floor and did not purchase to begin with.

After that one reloading they get shot usually outdoors where I don't plan on harvesting the brass any way.
 
I'd like to keep the 45ACP SPP hate alive so I can continue to buy them on the cheap from the used brass sellers. I have NO issues with them whatsoever.
 
I don't think I've ever had to actually buy 45ACP brass from picking enough up off the ground at the club I shoot at. I've had my frame rails lowered to fit the slide so my primer strikes are visibly off-center. I don't know if that is going to be a problem with SPPs so I stick to LPs.
Annoying that I have to buy a brick of LP primers every few years to feed the 1911 but I can live with that.
 
Not going to blow up your gun and you won't notice any difference in accuracy. The only difference is the difference itself. If the .45 Auto is the only large primer case you reload you can now only stock small pistol primers, that's an advantage.

Will too notice a difference in accuracy. I noticed 25% smaller groups with the loads I was using.
 
Fetches a buck a pound at the scrap yard.

That's all?? I get $1.98/lb here. ;)

I bought my first 1911 last July.
Around here the best price for ammo was federals @ Wallyworld.
They were all small primered.
I bought 5 boxes to start my collection.

So, to me, the large are the odd balls.
 
What we need is for CCI to come out with a new primer size halfway between a Small Pistol Standard and a Large Rifle Magnum.
Maybe .1925" or .195" dia?
A small Poof, followed up by a huge Flash, with a progressing flame front, but only after fast burning powder had already finished burning!

That way, we wouldn't have to pay attention and read the labels.
Or hang up a cell phone call while buying primers at Cabala's.

And we could ignore all the reloading manual data on primer type, and size.

The intermediate size primer could be Squished into Small pockets, and Crushed to fit large pockets.
Sort of like we do now when we don't know about crimped primer pockets yet.

Since this new primer size is between standard and magnum, we could just ignore reloading data foolishness that tries to tell us which primer we should use.
Who buys a manual or reads that crap anyway till they get in trouble.

Yea!
Thats the ticket!

I'm calling CCI tomorrow morning!
You guys are going to be paying me commission in the not too distant future when CCI starts making these suckers!! :D

rc
 
If I didn't have a couple thousand LPPs I'd be trading that brass for the SPP version. I don't like having to stock the LPP for one 1911. I really don't like sorting range pickups but they're worth more to sell by the hundreds then for scrap value.


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I don't like them. I scrounge brass from the range, and I have to look at every single piece of .45 brass to separate the SP cases. I don't mind using them, but I hate having to look at all the fired cases every time I pick them up.
 
A readers letter to the staff at GUNS Magazine, January 2012 issue, states that after finding Federal brand "range brass" with small pistol primers, he called Federal and they provided him with their explanation for switching to small primers. To wit.....

"There is no SAAMI spec for primer size for the .45 ACP. To keep costs down we are loading a small pistol primer in the .45 ACP because performance from the large primer to the small primer is the same."

GUNS editors responded to the readers letter that they had covered Federal's switching of primer sizes in the May 2005 issue of the magazine.
 
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