4x vs 6x

Larry in wyoming

Larry in wyoming

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In the interest of continuity, I'd decided on Burris rt6 scopes on my ARs. I do have an off brand scope on one, but still, it's a 6x. Now I see an awesome deal on a vortex ranger 1-4x scope. These are supposed to be a very good scope. I'm just using it at ranges to 300yds primarily but occasionally I'll stretch it out to 5 or 6 hundred. Just steel plates at anything beyond 200. So! Do I break my self imposed rule or jump on the deal?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
 
Like my 1-4X Steiner, but illumination moves easy and the turret clicks aint real "clicky".
Works fine, but even for yotes, I'd like more than a 4X.
 
Good glass and reticle will make more difference than magnification will without quality glass or a poorly sized reticle.
The Vortex ranger 1-4 is a good scope I use one on my Service Match rifle (class limits optics to 4.5X) and service rifles are shot out to 600 yards.
I had one of the Strike Eagle 1-8X scopes and they're of very limited use much above 4X because of the glass and reticle, I've since changed it out for a US Optic TS8X it's still not a great precision reticle but it's excellent for anything I want to do with my 12.5" SBR lol.
 
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I really noticed the difference in glass when I compared the off brand to the rt6. I really do like the simple reticle in the rt6.
 
Like decent glass and magnification LOL
Used to eyeball shoot chucks out past 200 w my 3-9X AO Leupold.
But "graduated' to 12X quite a few yrs ago.
More magnification helps as one ages IMHO

For yotes and sub 200 yard stuff, 2-7X proly be best for me.
Chucks, yup 4-12X AO
 
^ yeah, I'm going to go with this. If you don't like it, just get what you really want and start buying others to see if there is anything else you might like it on.
 
Hookeye said:
Like decent glass and magnification LOL
Used to eyeball shoot chucks out past 200 w my 3-9X AO Leupold.
But "graduated' to 12X quite a few yrs ago.
More magnification helps as one ages IMHO

For yotes and sub 200 yard stuff, 2-7X proly be best for me.
Chucks, yup 4-12X AO
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Chucks...yes re: 4-12.

I put the best bargain in scopes, IMO, on my 22-250 and 243, new sale priced Burris FFII 4.5-14 AO. I don't dial, so these proved perfect for me as set and forget.

Where is the Vortex Ranger bargain price? I need something like that. ;)
 
luv2safari said:
Chucks...yes re: 4-12.

I put the best bargain in scopes, IMO, on my 22-250 and 243, new sale priced Burris FFII 4.5-14 AO. I don't dial, so these proved perfect for me as set and forget.

Where is the Vortex Ranger bargain price? I need something like that. ;)
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I like Vortex LVPO optics on rifle (14"+) platform AR's. If the RT-6 works for you I'd stick with it.
Have 3 1-6 and a 1-8 Vortex LVPO and one PA.

A 1-6 Vortex Venom LVPO is cheaper than the Burris RT6 on Amazon when I just looked
 
Larry in wyoming said:
www.eurooptic.com

Vortex Ranger 1-4x24 Rifle Scope TMCQ MOA RGR-1401

Buy Vortex Ranger 1-4x24 Rifle Scope TMCQ MOA RGR-1401 at Eurooptic.com. This Vortex Ranger Scope features exposed tactical-style elevation and windage turrets with .5 MOA per click adjustments and 220 MOA of travel. Shop Vortex Rifle Scope online.
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That's where I got mine it's a real good entry level Service Rifle optic for the NRA CMP type matches. Wasn't willing to pay the $1200 for the Leopold or the $2000 for the Nightforce for my middling club level abilities.
But if I wasn't limited by the rules I'd definitely get something 1-6 or 1-8 in a FFP.
 
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You have more than 1 AR right.

To me fixed power 4X and 6X scopes are neither fish nor fowl. I'd put a 1-4X on the one you're most likely to use for SD. On 1X they are incredibly fast to get on target and 4X is enough magnification to hit human size targets out to at least 400 yards. 600 is possible, but less ideal.

A fixed 6X is doable at 600 yards as long as the scope has fine crosshairs. But for those ranges I'd either want a fixed 10X or a variable with 9X or more on the upper end. A 4.5-14X would be what I'd use for long range work.

Whatever you decide I wouldn't set up 2 AR's with the same sighting system. If you like the fixed 6X you have keep it on one rifle and set the other one up with a 1-4X, a dot sight, or even irons. Different tools for different jobs instead of 2 tools for the same job.
 
jmr40 said:
You have more than 1 AR right.

To me fixed power 4X and 6X scopes are neither fish nor fowl. I'd put a 1-4X on the one you're most likely to use for SD. On 1X they are incredibly fast to get on target and 4X is enough magnification to hit human size targets out to at least 400 yards. 600 is possible, but less ideal.

A fixed 6X is doable at 600 yards as long as the scope has fine crosshairs. But for those ranges I'd either want a fixed 10X or a variable with 9X or more on the upper end. A 4.5-14X would be what I'd use for long range work.

Whatever you decide I wouldn't set up 2 AR's with the same sighting system. If you like the fixed 6X you have keep it on one rifle and set the other one up with a 1-4X, a dot sight, or even irons. Different tools for different jobs instead of 2 tools for the same job.
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To clarify, all the scopes on my rifles are variables. 1-6x
 
It depends on what you are using the gun for plus your eye condition. Almost all of my hunting was done with a 3 X 9 set on 4X. Get in thick cover and I went to 3X. long shots got dialed up until I was satisfied. I have killed a few prairiedogs at 400+ yards with 9X but as my age increased the more difficult it became. My 22-250 now wears a scope that reaches 20X just for that reason alone. With man made lenses to replace my originals I could probably go back to 9X but won't. I kind of enjoy the extra Xes.
 
It depends on the target size and the glass quality. I've shot 30 inch gongs at 1000 with my 1-4X Razor, but had a hard time making out a reduced silhouette at 500 because of the low angle sun.
 
I used to think it was all about magnification, but I've learned the hard way that glass clarity is better. I recently replaced my Strike Eagle 1-8x with a Delta Stryker HD 1-6x24 and the difference is pretty amazing. The Vortex feels like I'm looking through a long tube, while the Delta feels like I'm just looking through a big clean window. I think a good 4x optic is plenty for your needs. I was actually planning on the Steiner 1-4x but a good deal on the Delta came along.

My deer gun has a 3x prism (Vortex Spitfire gen 2) and I have no problems hitting the vital area on a deer at 200 yards. This is with a 350 legend at 200 and 100 yards with the 3x optic:

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I picked up a used RT6 at the gunshow and already plan on swapping out the Vortex 1-6 I have right now on my Mini-14.

Other than the Vortex stowing an extra battery, I like the RT6 image much better as well as the illumination controls.
 
Larry in wyoming said:
In the interest of continuity, I'd decided on Burris rt6 scopes on my ARs. I do have an off brand scope on one, but still, it's a 6x. Now I see an awesome deal on a vortex ranger 1-4x scope. These are supposed to be a very good scope. I'm just using it at ranges to 300yds primarily but occasionally I'll stretch it out to 5 or 6 hundred. Just steel plates at anything beyond 200. So! Do I break my self imposed rule or jump on the deal?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
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The RT6 is excellent I can attest. One snowy day I layed down prone to shoot steel at 200 meters. I had a basic straight tube Leupold 1-4X on one rifle and a 2-7X on the other rifle. I could see the steel target through the falling snow with the 2-7X33, however I could not see the target through the snow with the 1-4X20. I think it was a Mark AR scope.
 
I have a Steiner 1-4X and the glass seems good to me.
As such, I can't really go with a lesser scope now.
Its in a Leupold Mark AR mount, so is kinda heavy.

Need a scope for a .308 Ruger #1A.
Was thinking, since an offhand deer rifle, maybe the 1-4x.
But its in a mount and zeroed.

Wish Camerland did another special on that scope LOL.
I should call Doug next week.
 
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