51' smithy help? (likely to be moved)

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I must have use all the ram in this very tired system, sorry..

By way of the link I see the ball is angled. Where does this document come from? Is that correct? I see an air gap between the bolt and the cylinder slot.

Should there be?
 
Well at last! I have no idea why The High Road isn't working. I've posted pictures before without all this trouble.

Anyway...

By way of the link I see the ball is angled. Where does this document come from? Is that correct? I see an air gap between the bolt and the cylinder slot. Should there be?
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Yes, the angle is correct. When viewed from the front the ball has to be angled because the cylinder is round, and the bolt is offset from the frame's center line. The gap you see isn't necessary, but they drew it that way for purposes of illustration. The drawing is from: The Colt Single Action Revolvers - A Shop Manual (Volumes 1 & 2) by Jerry Kuhnhausen. It's available from: www.brownells.com
 
Oh that means something, as I have Jerry Kuhnhausen's book on mausers! Little pricey but well worth the books if you fiddle.. I should have known.

Old Fuff , do the figures I posted mean anything to you? Do you work with figures like these?

What I think I need to do is then stay with the angle on the new bolt and remove 0.008" and check, then remove a little more and check.

I wasn't sure about the level with Earth that my 1860 is and the original bolt in this 51 is.. I have the orginal, which I think you know.
 
I took one 1851 apart to compare the VTI bolt to the one in the gun. It would take a lot of modification to ever fit right. The hole in the bolt assembly for the frame bolt is even wrong, to small, certainly not an ASM part. Sorry I could'nt be of any help except I would be very careful if ordering any parts fron VTI.........
 
Mustanger1. Sure enought the hole in the bolt is too small, but a 0.126 drill bit fixed that...

Today, in a few moments with more assitance coming from Old Fuff, via e-mail, I will be rigging a vise with a wire to mount the bolt on an angel.

The vise will be clamped to a drill press. The drill press with get a rubber buff with course abraisives. This will maintain the 'ball' angle, and at the same time cut minimal amopunts of steel off the ball, keeping the ball rounded.

The plan so far is to remove 0.004" and check things. Then another 0.004".

BEFORE that happens however I am going to look over the duel springs and see if I can pull off a trick Old Fuff related to me in the e-mail so i can see better. The idea is to cut off the trigger side of a duel spring so you can see better. I will see if there is a broken spring I can alter for the effect and not butcher a good one already supplied..

If not, then perhaps select one of the several others that is least likely to ever be used.

This post will be updated as things happen. If my old camera can get any pics I will try to get them on here at some point in the future, not today..

I hope by later today to have a working action.. We'll see.
 
Mac I can't remember exactly how many of what parts I had to send you but if there is a duel spring you need to canabalize for this go right ahead and do it.

I have to leave for work here in a bit but i will check back the first chance I get when I am there. i would love to see a pic of what is going on. Sounds like you are close to having this thing licked.

When you have this fixed you ought to go into the Colt gunsmithing business!
 
Oh well did I ever hanve a heck of an evening. Why it's alomost 2:30 in the AM No it wasn't a simple gun that did this to me, not not that...
My damn computer CRASHED big time. This is my first post, and this system is skree-ued still. I guess I got some diddlin' to do now Mista'.

The good thing is this gun runs like a clock!

Since is a tad late for this heya ol' chil, I guess maybe I'll go take in a snooze, but feel free to give up a yelp, or at least a huzza.

Now I have it working I'ld like to take a few moments and see if I can bash that camera into working, and go over things to be 110% sure.

Feels pretty smooth to me, and there are no hang up, slips, or for fooie cogs in the gears.

Im283 , check for a pm, as I do not know if this damnned system will come on line again. I am going to put my phone number there for you as just now I don't recall if we traded, and if this system does go to hell in a hand basket I need contact info over the phone.
 
Wow!! I am so sorry to read you are having PC troubles but I am happy to read the gun is running again!!

Huzza Huzza Huzza!!

I go the PM and will call you later today, gonna give you chance to sleep in.

Dang I got a big ole smile on my face right now:D:D:D

Don't know how to ever re-pay you on this but I will come up with something.
 
LOL for what that costs you will have a good chunk of change, for a new gun!

I hate computers! it is still a royal mess.. Even the text looks funny. Some setting somewhere. i hate hunting for drivers too. Keep that phone number! I don't trust this system for beans..
 
I can tell it will go boom.... You get the honors.. I assume you will enjoy that. Why if I was ta' go out there, in that white stuff, which we have plenty of, well that dreaded yankee snow might do sumpin' to the finish!

I did something right, this site looks like normal.
 
The '51 Navy arrived in the mail today!! Woohoo.

Unfortunately I do not have time to check it out as I am at work. But tonight or tomorrow I will give it a once over and see what is what on it.

Thanks Mac
 
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