jonnyc
Member
I guess you missed the South African, Iranian, and Egyptian when they came through.
7.62x39 Ammo Boxes
- Thread starter allisd17
- Start date
NIGHTLORD40K
Member
Boom, nailed it!
Yup, IMI is Israel Military Industries (AKA IWI). But I question whether those Hansen 7.62x39 head stamps you have there are on factory new ammo. Could be reloads. I have several new boxes of Hansen 7.62x39 left over from early 90s, with the same box style, model number, and the head stamp is IK. Hansen is/was an importer, so they did get ammo from many sources.
The ammo in the boxes should be PPU. Once PPU started marketing PPU under their own name the Hansen boxes went away. The stamp on yours looks more like IK or IKI, which was made in the same Yugo PPU plant.that PPU is now. What I have is M67, model HCC 739 B 123gr soft point with IK headstamp.
Last edited:
OP
OP
allisd17
Member
True, but I did pick up South African .303 and Egyptian 8x57 when they came through. And I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express.
Speedo66
Member
It’s IMI as I mentioned.
But Hansen did import Israeli ammo under their name. Perhaps they sent primed cases from Israel to Yugoslavia to be finished. Or, they put the Israeli ammo in the wrong boxes.
tark
Member
![IMG_8125[1].JPG](/data/attachments/1020/1020144-cb46f8aad543421640a629232b7159d1.jpg)
In today's economy, that's a down payment on w house!I've got a thousand rounds of the stuff and I don't even have an AK or an SKS.
Yep, that's IMI alright. I couldn't see the headstamps as clearly on the pic you posted earlier. Well, the plot thickens. I've got quite a bit of IMI x39 under the brand name Samson. It's good stuff.
The story I got back in the day was that Hanson x39 was all Yugo PPU and was marketed under various brand names until Prvi Partizan started offering it in the blue box as PPU.
Was what you have there purchased new at a LGS or gun show, or did you come by it second hand? Wondering if it came that way or a previous owner put IMI in the Hansen box, or if they're reloads.
Well anyway, IMI and PPU are both top notch, so you can't go wrong either way.
EDIT: I did finally run across some posts where people were talking about IMI in Hansen boxes, so I've been edumacated. I wonder though since the box says Made in Yugoslavia if PPU just imported the IMI cases and loaded them in Yugoslavia. I've got a few hundred pieces of virgin IMI x39 brass that I bought before prices went nuts. Glad I got it when I did. It's very high quality.
~ Beck
Last edited:
Speedo66
Member
If nothing more, excellent trading material.I've got a thousand rounds of the stuff and I don't even have an AK or an SKS.
Or, as Father Sarducci taught in his 5 minute all you need to know economics course, buy low sell high.
Speedo66
Member
Thanks for doing some research. Always interesting to try and figure out why things happen in the firearms industry, especially internationally.
Israel, although they seem to make fine products, appears to have to tiptoe around to not alienate any of its supporters.
illinoisburt
Member
Here's a few I have without digging through ammo cans. Tula and the Red Army are current production found regularly. I've got the plain craft paper 'made in Russia hunting", Wolf, and Monarch in sealed crates.
230RN
2A was "political" when it was first adopted.
I'm not really a collector in the museum curator sense; I just buy quantities of what I need if it's suitable. My main concern with X 39 ammo is steel bullets and corrosion, although as my son has observed, if ETN (Extreme Tactical Need) is involved, your eighteenth and nineteenth worry will be corrosion and backstop cratering or sparking respectively.
I brung him up good.
I do have an "uncataloged" variety of ammo around, but these pictured ones were are left out in the open near my SKS Greeter due to laziness, so I thought of them on reading this thread. In view of recent events, though, I also keep three clips ("magazinr-filling devices") of X39 ammo nearby, but not out in the open.
Most of my ammo is stored in steel .50BMG boxes, so I can't tell without digging, but I'm sure I have some labeled "Golden Bear" around.
Terry, 230RN
I brung him up good.
I do have an "uncataloged" variety of ammo around, but these pictured ones were are left out in the open near my SKS Greeter due to laziness, so I thought of them on reading this thread. In view of recent events, though, I also keep three clips ("magazinr-filling devices") of X39 ammo nearby, but not out in the open.
Most of my ammo is stored in steel .50BMG boxes, so I can't tell without digging, but I'm sure I have some labeled "Golden Bear" around.
Terry, 230RN
Last edited:
i have this copperw washed with cnic 762x39 headstamp. 180 rounds on strippers. one pouch is empty. trying to figure a value. Everything is norinco and no longer imported for a long time. I think the ban was in 89. Trying to determine a value. Any help?
Bcwitt
Member
Gotta love the Chicom chest rig.
Ignition Override
Member
All of it is Wolf, Tula and Monarch.
For the record, my Czechpoint VZ-58 “Sporter” has used 3,600 rounds with zero issue.
230RN: “Extreme Tactical Need”..
Fun-nay!
I enjoyed your creative language. Luckily there are no enemy troops building up on the US border (unless Trudeau gets much squirrelier/Leftist than usual) , as was the case in Ukraine.
For the record, my Czechpoint VZ-58 “Sporter” has used 3,600 rounds with zero issue.
230RN: “Extreme Tactical Need”..
Fun-nay!
I enjoyed your creative language. Luckily there are no enemy troops building up on the US border (unless Trudeau gets much squirrelier/Leftist than usual) , as was the case in Ukraine.
Last edited:
commygun
Member
The OP's photos are a trip down memory lane. Those various Chinese boxes were everywhere at mid-90's gunshows. Sometimes selling for as little as $2 a box. The same per-cartridge price as remanufactured .38 special at the time. Even allowing for inflation it was dirt cheap.
Riomouse911
Member
I put lots of 7.62x39 into a .50 cal ammo can and tossed the boxes. My favorite communist ammo was the “Silver Bear” with the shiny nickel-looking case. It gave the cheapo blasting stuff some communist panache’ 
.
Stay safe.
. Stay safe.
Lefty38-55
Member
Boy I'd say I have about 8 to 9 out of 10 of the boxes shown and maybe a few others not shown, haha.
That Norinco 'copper washed' has been some of the most accurate for me, but the best has been PMC soft-point hunting ammo. Also have built a dedicated AR/MSR upper in -39mm, with a JP Enterprises adjustable gas port, and it's amazing the accuracy it wrings out of some of this 'bulk ammo' shown.
That Norinco 'copper washed' has been some of the most accurate for me, but the best has been PMC soft-point hunting ammo. Also have built a dedicated AR/MSR upper in -39mm, with a JP Enterprises adjustable gas port, and it's amazing the accuracy it wrings out of some of this 'bulk ammo' shown.
Speedo66
Member
I still have some of the Chinese ammo with steel inserts that some erroneously described as “armor piercing”.
Haven’t used any since the ‘90’s, but I recall it was quite accurate.
The boxes say non corrosive, but that’s up for discussion. I treated it as non corrosive and had no problems in my chrome lined Norinco SKS though.
Haven’t used any since the ‘90’s, but I recall it was quite accurate.
The boxes say non corrosive, but that’s up for discussion. I treated it as non corrosive and had no problems in my chrome lined Norinco SKS though.
commygun
Member
If I can’t pronounce the country of origin I’m not buying it.
‘Murica.
‘Murica.
Last night i watched german documentary about former East German Army being absorbed into Bundeswehr. You would cry if you saw truck loads of 7.62x39 ammo being opened from crates and then thrown into machines that separated everything to raw materials again. According to narrator “ Milliarden” ( billions) of cartridges were just recycled . They did same thing with tanks, APC’s and MiGs ( except MiG-29)
