7.62x54r ammo question surpplus.

[shotgunsrfun]

I wanted to know is there some company that makes 7.62x54R for mosin nagant NON corrsive? All I see for the 7.62x54R ammo is old surpplus stock which is OK but I like to know what will happen once the supply runs out? will a company start making it?

 

[mcdonl]

I reload mine, but when I need brass I buy Sellior and Bellots ammo... they have nice brass and the price is good. It is readily available ammo at Cabelas and others.

 

[saturno_v]

Hot Shot, Wolf, Sellier & Bellot, Winchester, Brown Bear and Silver Bear, Prvi Partizan, Norma all sell 7,62x54R ammo non corrosive.

Only the military surplus is corrosive in that caliber.

 

[Mikee Loxxer]

I like to know what will happen once the supply runs out?

When that happens I imagine the Mosin Nagant enthusiasm we see here on The High Road will subside significantly.

 

[Col. Plink]

Let's see... the world's most-produced rifle caliber that continues to drive the sales of its ammunition, even among new producers.

What about this scenario implies anything remotely approaching a drying-up of 7.62x54r?

 

[project88]

i doubt the supply of 7.62x54r will dry up anytime soon...correct me if i'm wrong but i do believe the PKM(which is chambered in 7.62x54r IIRC) is still in service with various countries

 

[shotgunsrfun]

can you show a link where to find 7.62x54r? non corr, I cant find any on GB

 

[sharkhunter2018]

Or, you could stock up on surplus 54R while you can get it. And if all you own is a bolt gun, it'll take you a while to go through several thousand rounds of it.

And Saturno listed most, probably all the companies that make new 54R.

 

[Col. Plink]

www.aimsurplus.com

has good deals on Brown Bear I know. It's from the Barnaul plant and much cleaner than Wolf...

also try

www.ammoman.com
www.ammunitiontogo.com

 

[wgaynor]

www.cheaperthandirt.com
www.midwayusa.com

 

[Deadbolt]

brutal prices

 

[Max C.]

I have some late 80s/early 90s Pravi made (headstamp nny) surplus and it doesn't seem to be corrosive. Unfortunately I can't seem to find any more of it online or at gun shows or online. I liked it mostly because it was non-magnetic and my rifle never had a problem getting sticky with it (less of a problem after getting more of the cosmolin out).

 

[HKrazy]

What's the big deal with shooting corrosive ammo. Usually it's just the primer that is mildly corrosive anyway.

It's especially easy to take care of in a bolt action gun as one swipe of a patch up and down the barrel and then wipe the bolt face with the same patch and you are good to go.

Obviously, in a gas operated semi auto you have to wipe the gas system also.

The drier a climate you live in, the less of a problem it is as the issue is corrosive salts mixing with moisture. I would not do it, but I know people in Nevada who rarely clean their guns after shooting corrosive ammo and have no rust.

Also, don't use ammonia to neutralize the acidic salts, you are just exchanging one bunch of bad chemicals for another. If you don't neutralize the ammonia after a short while it begins to form microscopic cracks in metal.

I use Ballistol as it neutralizes the corrosive salts and not only won't it harm metal, it cleans and protects it.

It is good for wood and leather also. Perfect for those mil surp guns.

 

[Ian Sean]

Also, don't use ammonia to neutralize the acidic salts, you are just exchanging one bunch of bad chemicals for another. If you don't neutralize the ammonia after a short while it begins to form microscopic cracks in metal.

Really? My boilers here at work (power plant) should explode any minute!!! We use aqueous ammonia @20% for pH control!!! I hate these myths to no end.

Yes....high strength ammonia solutions in constant contact (like in a closed tank or pipe) with high chromium and some stainless steels can produce micro cracking over time. That is why you won't find any ammonia tanks made out of these metals or out of stainless...tanks and piping are made out of plain old carbon steels. The 2% ammonia found in windex won't do it...and ammonia is volatile and will vapor off when exposed to the atmosphere.

Water is really all you need, soapy water better than that. Windex is often recommended for corrosive ammo cleaning and is fine and comes in a handy spray bottle also. It is mostly water soap and a tad of ammonia.....high pH is good for steels and will help passivate the steel. If you aren't going to be able to clean your rifle asap after shooting corrosive, there is nothing wrong with a few patches soaked with windex.