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700X for 45acp?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by evolve23, Feb 21, 2013.

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  1. evolve23

    evolve23 Member

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    Normal powder is out so I ordered the 700X as a substitute. Anybody have any good recipes?
     
  2. rcmodel

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    Why would anyone buy powder without checking that there were loads listed for it in the cartridge you want to reload?
     
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    It's times like these where people will discover that their precious favorite powder isn't really all that special.
     
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    Gonna need more info chief, like bullet weight, type, etc.
     
  6. kingmt

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    John

    There is no data for any round on most of the powders I own. Until I make it anyhow.

    Just the way I like to roll.
     
  7. JohnM

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    I don't go there, unless there's some reputable published data to use as a starting point.
    Too old and set in my ways to get into that which is a whole different ball game.
     
  8. hueyville

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    Mighty broad question with very little data other than powder type and intended caliber. Look it up in your manual for bullet of choice then work it out. What says a load that might shoot well in one of my guns will do so in yours? There is a very narrow window from low to high side thus only a matter of a few minutes to dial in the charge your gun likes at the range.
     
  9. TonyT

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    My favorite bullseye pistol load for 50 ft & 25 yards is 3.8 gr. HS-700X, Rem LP behind a 185 gr. LSWC at ca 720 fps - a very mild and accurate load. Lot's of other data on the Hodgdon website.
     
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    Just as a heads up - from my experience IMR 700-X is the worst metering powder I've ever used. Goes bang just fine, but just due to metering variations in a group of 10 shots my velocity would vary by up to 100 fps.
     
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    700x is special? hmm it would prob like to know that too. There is load data for it everywhere.
     
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    I tried it with 230 gr FMJs and it didn't have enough oomph. Was far to slow.
     
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    Slow it isn't.
    It's actually quite fast.
    You just didn't use enough of it.

    4.9 grains will give you 842 FPS with a 230 grain FMJ.

    Thats about a mil-spec hardball load.

    rc
     
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    700-X works great in the 45 ACP with 230 RN. It is about the only powder that I have used for the 45 ACP since 1980.
     
  16. Jesse Heywood

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    Apparently from a loader who hasn't tried 800-X.
     
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    Yeah......I laugh when people say Unique doesn't meter well. I bough some 800X about 3 months ago. Neither my Hornady powder measure nor my Lee PPM will drop a consistent load. I feel lucky if I can get .5 gr either direction of my desired charge. It sits on the self, waiting until everything else is gone.
     
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    Cornflakes meter better than 700x
     
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    I would have to call that an exaggeration. :)

    It meters decently, about like other large flake powders. It shoots well though. It is good stuff with lead in .45 ACP. W231 and lead always shot better for me, but 700X and Solo 1000 were not far behind. It was a good choice since your usual powder could not be had right now. It works well with plated and "moly" (Precision) bullets as well. I have never tried it with jacketed.
     
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    700-X works well with cast, plated, and jacketed 230 grain RN bullets. With the load I use, all three shoot with the same nominal velocity, 810-820 fps, and to the same point of aim.

    I have probably loaded 700-X with other shaped bullets, but 230 RN is pretty much all that I have loaded in 20-25 years.

    As far as metering, it meters about the same as Unique. No problems with and RCBS Little Dandy measure or a Redding 10-X. I did have some issues with the Hornady L-N-L on the Hornady progressive. But, I bought a Dillon SDB to try and it is dedicated to 45 ACP. The Dillon powder measure meters 700-X just fine.

    Unique meters just fine for me as well.

    I recently tried some 700-X in the 44 Special and liked that load. The 44 Special is loaded on the Hornady progressive with a case activated Redding 10-X powder measure.

    There are other powders that work just fine in the 45 ACP but 700-X works for me.
     
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    .44 Special is why I bought a 5 pound can of 700X when my first purchase ran out. The first came in a paper bag from an old reloader.
     
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    I'm really happy hearing all the positive things about 700x, since all my regular powders were out, and there was 2 lbs of it on the gunstore shelf, and it came home.
     
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    I think you will find each container only has 14 ounces of 700-X in it. 700-X is a bit less dense than the "run-of-the-mill" powder.

    Back when IMR powders came in metal tins for the one pound quantity, 700-X containers only had 1/2 pound.
     
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    Also got stuck in my lee auto disk pro and it became impossible to clean out. I have to return the auto disk now. Thank goodness for Cableas warranties.
     
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    I've always used 700X in 45 ACP I use a 200 grain LSWC over 4.1 grains of 700X. Burns clean and gives an accurate load
     
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