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783 in 6.5 Creedmore
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Until recently 6.5 CM was one of the only cartridges on shelves. For most people it is a better option than 308, and I have 4 rifles in 308 so I do like the round. But for whatever reason 6.5 seems to have dried up, at least temporarily.
I can now find 308, 223, and 9mm sitting on gun shop floors literally on pallets they roll in with a forklift. But that is about it. There is some 450 BM and 350 Legend. Why, I have no idea, but it is there. I can't recall the last time I saw 270, 30-06, 30-30 or any of the other traditional hunting cartridges. Just a guess, but most guys shooting 6.5 CM and many other rounds are reloaders.
I've never heard any complaints about the accuracy from any of the Remington budget bolt rifles. It is the workmanship and longevity that has always concerned me. Right now, I'm at a bit of a loss to recommend any of the current crop of budget rifles. Everything has gone up lately and it makes it hard to buy anything at a good price. My advice is to shop for a better used rifle or save up a little longer.
I can now find 308, 223, and 9mm sitting on gun shop floors literally on pallets they roll in with a forklift. But that is about it. There is some 450 BM and 350 Legend. Why, I have no idea, but it is there. I can't recall the last time I saw 270, 30-06, 30-30 or any of the other traditional hunting cartridges. Just a guess, but most guys shooting 6.5 CM and many other rounds are reloaders.
I've never heard any complaints about the accuracy from any of the Remington budget bolt rifles. It is the workmanship and longevity that has always concerned me. Right now, I'm at a bit of a loss to recommend any of the current crop of budget rifles. Everything has gone up lately and it makes it hard to buy anything at a good price. My advice is to shop for a better used rifle or save up a little longer.
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I had an early version of the Marlin X7 back when it was an XL7, chambered in 270 Winchester. The rifle didn’t like long boat tailed 130 grain bullets. It threw them high and left. The Hornady 140 grain Interlocks shot very well in it and 130 Nosler BTs did too. It all came down to surface contact in the bore. Those longer boat tailed 130s didn’t like the barrel the way others did.
Too bad that line of rifles was a threat to Remington after the merger (who axed it from production) but if the 783 does the job then so be it.
Too bad that line of rifles was a threat to Remington after the merger (who axed it from production) but if the 783 does the job then so be it.
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308 will pop up occasionally here, 223 and 9mm as well though less often and they don't stick around as long. I've seen 30-06 here and there as well. 22lr seems to be back pretty consistently now too.
270 has been pretty solidly around since the start of the ammopocolypse, as has 350 Legend. I've actually never seen 350 Legend NOT on the shelf at the local Walmart ironically enough.
I think you might be into something with reloaded and the 6.5 Creedmoor, might just not be enough demand for factory new rounds to justify large runs at the expense of more "popular" calibers.
FL-NC
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My 6.5 CM is a Ruger American. A little pricier than the rifle you mentioned but worth it IMO.
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What makes it worth it?
FL-NC
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For one thing, Ruger quality and customer service. Also the action is bedded into steel v-blocks. Not sure if the Rem is detachable mag or not, but the RAR is. My RAR consistently shoots sub MOA groups- better than some of the sniper rifles I was issued in the mil.
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I know it competes in the same space as the Axis and Patriot, but doesn't the Ruger American also have a barrel closer to a medium profile versus the pencil thin savage?
The Predator and other variants do, the standard is very light profile.
You can/could also get varmint profile Axis and 783.
The exterior finish on my dads 2021 predator is poor compared to the older Americans ive owned.
Theres un-even profiling on the barrel lol....but it shoots and works fine.
MarshallDodge
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I've owned both.
I liked the action on the RAR and trigger was decent.
The stock on the 783 is much nicer and so are the magazines.
My RAR didn't shoot that great. Typical group with my reloads that shot sub MOA in several other rifles. I am in no way saying it is typical.
To be fair, the first 783 that I received was terrible. I called Remington and they were easy to work with, had a call tag out to me the next day. Something must have been wrong because they inspected it and sent me a whole new rifle. This one shoots sub MOA, as posted earlier.
The early American stocks wernt any better than the 783s, but the latest generation is noticably better reinforced.
I still prefer the grip shape of the 783, and Remington stocks in general...thats one thing I really like about most Remington rifles actually.
I dont think there's really a mechanical advantage of one over the other, ive never seen an example if either that wasnt acceptably accurate and functional...all but one of both rifles (and every Axis ive shot) has been a sub MOA gun with little or no work.
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