870 express issue

[Ike R]

I bought a new 870 express yesterday, was given a box of winchester dove loads with the purchase, came home last night cleaned the tar out of it, assembled and lubed it up for my dove hunting today after work.

When I logged in here there was a thread about them not extracting winchester bulk shells, but since my free ammo was Super X and not the same ones I was reassured that all was well and toted 50 rounds along for trap shooting and then the hunt itself.

Well, all isn't well. Over half the shots I took today locked the action so that it wouldn't open until I literally stomped the butt end into the ground. This was not just with Winchester Super x , but also with Remington Nitro express, Fiochi, and Remington Super Game.

I just disassembled the gun again and looked inside ALOT closer, theres a bur on the inner extracter side on the barrel, its coated and not bright steel so I know its not a problem I caused. Shineing a light down the chamber also reveals an area that looks like a hard wire brush was ran down it about 1 inch inside of it, its really rough looking, and I know its not right at all.

When I called from the field today Remington said that the issue I was having would cease after being fired for an unspecified number of rounds and was NOT a warrenty issue, but with the bur and the scoreing in the chamber I am not sure that it will straighten out.

Has anyone else had this type of issue with their 870 shotgun? Should I attempt to force the issue with thier CS department?

I still limited out, even scored a kill on a feral dog, but hunting would have been alot faster had me and my fellows not been jacking with the shotgun all morning.

 

[Handgunner]

Has anyone else had this type of issue with their 870 shotgun?

Yes.

Should I attempt to force the issue with thier CS department?

I would send it in. You bought a new shotgun. It should work. Period.

I wish I had sent mine in instead of wasting my time and my money completing their manufacturing process.

There is no way we should accept any sub par firearm that won't function out of the box.

Keep accepting crap and the manufacturers will be happy to oblige us.

 

[btg3]

When I cleaned my 870 for the first time (before firing it), I noticed numerous sharp edges and burrs inside the receiver. They snagged my cleaning cloth and threatened to cut flesh. Well, for better or for worse, I fully disassembled the receiver, grabbed a medium Lansky stone, and smoothed everything out... with a very light touch, of course, and followed up with fine emery cloth. I rinsed it with WD40 to remove the particles, let it dry, and applied a little gun oil.

The action was so much smoother I was stunned. It has been flawless with various target loads and buck shot. I probably got lucky and am not suggesting that anyone else would get the same results.

If you decide to try this, proceed at your own risk. There is potential to damage the gun, make it unsafe, unreliable, and result in harm or fatality to you or others.

 

[hometheaterman]

Send it in. It will not go away after firing more rounds. At least none of the ones I've seen have. This is a common problem with the 870 Expresses and imo it's a shame Remington can't fix it before it leaves the factory, but Remington seems to have forgotten what quality is. Anyway, if you can't send it in and they won't fix it, have a gunsmith, or you can do it yourself, but anyway, polish the chamber. It should fix it and should be cheap. Your's sounds pretty bad though.

 

[Ike R]

There where 3 burs on the shell ejector on the wall side, after examining a few spent shells for cuts I was able to find them all and used a arkansas stone to rub them out, took an emory cloth and a drill and very lightly reamed the chamber. Fires flawlessly for everyone but me now, I apparently am not racking the pump hard enough forward, but if I push foward slightly before attempting to eject the shell the issue is non-existant.

I just need to work on my forward stroke apparently as it has been a long while since I have worked a pump shotgun.

Thanks to everyone for the advice , especially BTG. A trusted friend is going to take it to his private range today and run some rounds through it for me to see if the issue duplicates itself for him at any time.

 

[zhyla]

I would send it in. You bought a new shotgun. It should work. Period.

I think if more people did this Remington might fix this issue.

 

[Handgunner]

Glad you are up and running.

 

[Oceans]

Very disappointing to hear, Remington was at one time a very solid mid priced firearm, that you could depend on. Great value for the working men of this country. They had a good market share too, in rifles and shotguns, and ammo. So many horror stories these days about their QC, and I too have seen some shoddy quality control on their new products at gun retailers. I have bought Remingtons all my life, but this type of mismanagement is enough to change a lot of their loyal customer's minds about them. I have two express models in addition to my Wingmasters, an early 21 inch turkey gun in 12 Ga., and a .28 gauge 870 that I bought my son for rabbits. The .28 gauge is very good at patterning with its fixed modified choke, but its slide is not smooth, and has not smoothed out after many rounds, also the finish is poor and rough, very susceptible to rust, if not cared for immediately. The early turkey gun is a much better product.

 

[mjyeagle]

send it back to remington my 870 has not jammed once had it since i was 11

 

[Avenger29]

ery disappointing to hear, Remington was at one time a very solid mid priced firearm, that you could depend on

They still make solid firearms. But when you are dealing with the economy version of one of their products...it is not going to be as nice as the higher grade guns. There may be minor issues (like this). Don't buy an Express and expect a Wingmaster or Police Magnum grade gun.

The good news is that the rough edges of the Express guns can generally be tamed, either through lots of shooting or through a bit of elbow grease...and the gun will be slick and great after that.

 

[hometheaterman]

While it may be the economy version of their guns Remington is by no means a high end company. There are other companies like Savage, Mossberg, Weatherby, etc that all make products in the same price range as Remington and their lower end products just flat out work. Savage sells the Model 10 package deals for around the same price as the POS Remington 770. The Savage Edge which is still light years better than the 770 is even cheaper. That's what gets me about Remington. A $350 shotgun from them should function perfectly and never have to be worked on right out of the box. If it was a $50 shotgun I might see this different, however several companies offer shotguns for well under $350 some even under $200 that do not have all of these issues. So it's no reason Remington can't do it for $350.

So to me that excuse about just buying a cheap gun is bs. It's a $350 gun not a $50 Jennings. Their 770 rifles that are huge pieces of crap are $3-400 guns. Yet several other companies make guns in that price range that are tons better, so why can't Remington?

 

[Ike R]

It was a new ,but out of the box 870, plus the 250 rounds of Winchester Super X and a shotgun case, all for 250. I was hunting for a benilli nova h2o when I found the deal and I wish I had kept hunting for the Nova. You win some you loose some I guess.

Luckily for me the gunshop owner had stripped the UPC code off of the box and bagged it with owners manual and paperwork otherwise I would not have had the information to register the 2 year warrenty.

Friend didn't get a chance to fire it for me yesterday because of the steady rain, but if its not raining in a few hours we are hitting the milo again and I will get a chance to pace it out myself.