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870 vs 590A1

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by True Grit, Mar 5, 2011.

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  1. True Grit

    True Grit Member

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    Okay so I'm looking to buy a new HD shot gun. I went to the gun store yesterday and I have fell for two, a Mossberg M590A1 with bayonet (AWSOME!!!) and of coarse a Remington 870. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, I WANTS THEM BOTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  2. The-Reaver

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    870 Magnum Wingmaster all the way man.
    Those are the best shotgun recievers ever made.
    Period.
     
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    A 12 gauge spear is nice to have while camping by yourself. Just dont put a hole in your tent.
     
  4. Fred Fuller

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    Either one will do an excellent job at anything you need a defensive shotgun to do, as long as you do your part of course. The shooter matters a lot more than the gun. No amount of hardware will make up for a lack of mindset and skillset.

    And with reasonable care, either gun should be perking along quite happily long after you have shuffled off this mortal coil. Your heirs will thank you for your foresight and consideration in buying quality firearms. :D

    As for the bayonet, if you have to guard prisoners, participate in trench warfare or the like there might be some utility in having one. Otherwise they're useless weight and will contribute a good bit to muzzle heaviness, making for a sluggish gun if you need to get it on target quickly. "Kewl points" might be a selling point for some, but if "kewl" detracts from practical utility, I'll take practical every time. Of course, I'm an old stuck in the mud too...

    lpl
     
  5. spyderdude

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    I love my 590, impractical bayonet and all! :evil:
     
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    +1 on the wingmaster
     
  7. Robert

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    590
    I like the location of the safety and bolt release on the Mossberg better.
     
  8. Dave McCracken

    Dave McCracken Moderator In Memoriam

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    The one that FEELS best....
     
  9. jad0110

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    Yep, or just get both!

    I really like both platforms, but in the end I prefer the control locations on the 590, as well as the shell elevator that stays up out of the way for easier loading of the mag. So that's what I went with. My only small regret was going with the rifle sights (I prefer a plain old bead just a bit). Both are great choices, so you can't really go wrong either way. Or like I said, just get both!
     
  10. True Grit

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    Yeah some things are selling points and I do agree a weapon is only a weapon when its in the hands of someone who knows how to use it. I just bought the new Mossberg 2011 Buyer's Guide this evening and they had an interesting piece called "The Chainsaw". IDK I think I'm kinda leaning toward the M590A1...
     
  11. RONSERESURPLUS

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    good pick in either! I got an 870 express, but if a 590 come along for 225, would have took it!

    ron
     
  12. rstull85

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    I love my 870, haven't messed with a 590 but I would assume its fairly similar to a 500 right. Either way I have 2 mossy 500's and my 870. I love all three and don't think you could go wrong either way. But if I had to pick, mossy but I think that would drop the bayonet.
     
  13. ActionJax

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    Before you buy next year's Mossy Buyers' Guide, check for a free .pdf copy online. I got it that way the past two years ..... Picking up my 590A this week. I liked the safety up top WHERE I CAN SEE IT, and also allows me to keep my trigger finger STRAIGHT until I am ready to shoot. I had to fumble with the Remington safety a bit.
     
  14. FIVETWOSEVEN

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    Its all a matter of getting used to with the two different guns rergarding control lay out. I personally like the Remingtons more than the Mossberg because I'm used to it.
     
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    +one million.

    The Remington slide release makes no sense at all to me, I can understand (even though it isn't great) a crossbolt safety, but having the slide release where you must change your grip to use it is insane.
     
  16. jad0110

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    Very true. Funny thing is, on stock equipped pumps I prefer the Mossberg, but pistol grip equipped I prefer the control layout on the Remington. Go figure.
     
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    Remington 870,
    + google.
     
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    I've owned both. I sold the 870. I now have a 590A1 20-inch with a sling and 3-inch magnum 00 buck. It kicks much more than the 870 but there's always birdshot for practice. The ergonomics are what sold me on the Mossberg, plus it had everything I wanted out of the box.
     
  19. DrDragon

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    As stated, the only real difference you'll notice between the 2 is this. I started with Remington's, so I'm used to the controls and like them, others like the thumb safety and more rearward release of the mossberg. Hold them both at the store and release the bolt, rack it, and disengauge the safety (if they don't mind).
     
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    I just went through the 870 vs 590A1 process too and the 590A1 will be picked up this week ... I orded it from Buds. Both are great guns but the 590A1 worked best for my situation.

    Good luck!!
     
  21. Mark8252

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    Mossberg or 870

    I have shot perfect rounds of skeet with both a Mossberg and a 870. My 870 is a wingmaster. Buy the one you like. The only way you will consistently hit your target is to practise...the manufacturer of the gun makes no difference.
    Its just preference.
     
  22. Double Vision

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    Today I started a similar post (Mossberg 500 vs Remington 870) without seeing this first. Sorry!

    I looked at an 870 manual on line and wasn't sure if I would like the Remington safety and bolt release locations as compared to the Mossberg, which I'm used to.
    I guess as with many things it's a matter of personal taste.
     
  23. Grunt

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    If you don't have both, you're wrong! :neener: No, I have 2, 12 gauge 870's, a 20 gauge 870 and 2 Mossbergs, one a 500 and one a 590. You aren't going to go wrong with either one. Seeing things from both sides of the fence, the Remington shooter is going to complain about the aluminum receiver and plastic safety on the Mossberg. The Mossberg shooter will counter with the aluminum receiver is no different than the receiver on an M-16 and locking into a steel barrel is a moot point. The plastic safety is about a $10-15 replacement part and at least it was never a J-lock safety! The Mossberg shooter will also complain about the Remington's ability to tie up the gun if a shell slips past the lifter while the lifter that rides against the bolt of the Mossberg prevents this problem. Another things the Mossberg shooter will complain about is the slide release on the 870 being awkward to manipulate without breaking your grip. The Remington shooter will counter that the J-lock is a thing of the past although they do pop up every now and again but is another cheap and easy fix. They will also argue that the flex tab on the newer models also address the problems of the earlier models as far as a shell slipping past the shell catches. As far as the slide release, if you carry it in cruiser ready, it's not an issue. They will also boast about more aftermarket parts available for the 870. The Mossberg will argue that shell catches and ejectors are not peened in place like the 870 that has a limited life of receiver metal for replacing worn parts or restaking. The Remington boasts a better safety location if you use a buttstock with a pistol grip. The Mossberg has a better safety location for left handed shooters, The Remington is the shotgun of choice for LE officers. The Mossberg is the shotgun of choice for the military. In both case though to be fair, you see both brands in both LE and military roles. It always has been and always will be a "Ford versus Chevy" debate and we can throw in the Winchester Defender or Ithaca M37 in if you want to add Mopar to this debate as well. Go with either or better yet, go with both! ;)
     
  24. Thruhike98

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    Nice summary

    Nice summary of about 7534 threads here on THR. Well done Grunt.
     
  25. Zach S

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    870 or 590: Yes...

    Either will serve you well. I prefer the 590 due to being wrong handed.
     
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