911 or 1911?

[Dave P]

Woman Calls 911 Before She Is Killed

UPDATED: 11:50 am EDT September 21, 2005

SUNRISE, Fla. -- Police say an 18-year-old Broward County woman used her cell phone to call 911 for help Monday night, but by the time officers arrived, she had been killed.

Sunrise police said when officer arrived at the apartment building at 5990 N.W. 19th St. just after midnight, Christine Myers was lying dead in a hallway.

Police arrested up 26-year-old Edward Mosie Howard on Tuesday.

Investigators said Myers and Howard knew each other, but investigators said they don't know a motive for the killing.

Howard made his first court appearance Wednesday. He is being held without bond on murder and sexual assault charges. Police said he also has a no-bond hold for a probation violation.

Police have not said how Myers was killed.

Copyright 2004 by Local6.com. All rights

 

[enfield303]

Another situation where 1911 would have been a little more effective. :banghead:

 

[cslinger]

I have worked as a dispatcher/emergency communications/911 operator and you cannot believe how quickly somebody can kick in your door, kill your dog and take you out. Those are the people that all that would go through my mind was you had enough time to dial 911 you would have had enough time to shoot the SOB, have a cigarette to calm down and then call us.

This is the reason I am an advocate of keeping a firearm within arms reach in your home. I know for a fact how fast things can transpire.

Chris

 

[Nightfall]

Dialing 870 will get me the same results, right?

 

[Nick1911]

Dialing 870 will get me the same results, right?

As well as 642, 686, 500, among others

I wonder what else there is to the story...

 

[hso]

I want to know how much time elapsed between the 911 call initiating and the arrival of the police.

 

[enfield303]

I'm thinking calling 870 would work just as well. They both tend to make sure the caller is able to dial 911 later.....

 

[foghornl]

I dial 1911 first, then if needed MAverick88

last call is to 9-1-1

 

[Colt]

Of course, since the "suspect" was apprehended, and will be held accountable (for at least a few years) all's well that ends well in the eyes of the gun-grabbers.

 

[Stauble]

dial 357 everytime
ill call 911 to remove the body
if he tries to run ill put the gun in his hand and make it look like suicide

on a serious note i live within sprinting distance of where this happened, kinda puts me on me gaurd a bit more

 

[GI Jane]

dialing 911 is a waste of time, I say beretta 92FS. Then let the neighbors call 911 because they heard shott fired...20 mins later when the cops come they are going to find dead men tell no tales and me still pulling the triger, hell I can't remember anything, I must have blacked out...

 

[Standing Wolf]

Cops don't prevent crime. They write crime reports, and sometimes capture criminals after they've committed crimes.

 

[nfl1990]

While I'll definatly agree with dialing 1911, I would first use a .308 (Better stopping power)

 

[acdodd]

Cops don't prevent crime. They write crime reports, and sometimes capture criminals after they've committed crimes

The generate revenue for the gov. agency (city, county, state) they work for and do paperwork, after the fact, when someone screws up.

 

[thebigc]

for me its either grab the 1911 and the ka bar from the safe or go upstairs and get the single shot 12 guage ( more ma freindly) 911 is for after.

 

[nfl1990]

If your pistol, and knife are in asafe, and your shotgun is upstairs, what happens to you when your not near either.

 

[OneInchGroup]

Have a good friend, and happily good neighbor who is a police officer with over 20 years on the job, now mostly trains new patrol officers.

His statement on the function of the police: "We are criminal historians. We write the after action reports when a crime is committed, 90% of the time, and then build "incident diaries" as new information becomes available about the original crime, through investigation, arrest, prosecution and, sometimes incarceration. The average officer will never in his career arrive at a crime scene while anything of any importance is still going on. Only the very unlucky officer gets to a crime scene in time to be fired upon, unless his duty assignment has to do with crowd or riot control."

This officer's biggest action of his career, so far, took place at his own house, in his own bedroom, when a gang of burglars failed to understand that he was working the night shift on the afternoon they broke into his house to haul away the furiture, and etc.

Yep, you guessed it, no 911 call until after all the gunsmoke cleared away so the incoming officers could get a correct body count.

Moral of the story, never wake up a sleeping peace officer who is both a Vietnam era Vet and also a firearms and tactics instructor, unless you REALLY want to see what a body bag looks like from the inside.

Oh, for those into the details, my pal always did and still does keep an issue Mossy 500 as the GoTo Gun in the bedroom, and the final score that afternoon was Mossy two, bad guys a big ZERO. And the after action report likely ran to 1/2 a line in a pocket notebook.

 

[sgb]

See below

 

[GI Jane]

If your pistol, and knife are in asafe, and your shotgun is upstairs, what happens to you when your not near either.

Not to sound like a prude but that's not very clever...you should always be armed...even in the bathroom, we have all seen those movies where someone gets the hachet in the bathroom...
Beside the bed is a mossburge 500, on the left side of the bed is a HK usp .45 on the right side is my Beretta 92SF. (was ruger P94 but it got replace this weekend, I am proud of my OD beretta can you guys tell?) did I mention extra maggs loaded for both pistols and extra rounds to the mossburge under the bed. In the living room is a 1/2 ton safe so God help the idiot who breakes in our home.. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: not to be prepared is just asking for it...

 

[Missashot]

I'm sort of jealous here. We only have 3 handguns scattered around the house for self defense. I think we may have to pull a few more out of the safe.

 

[dsb]

To those who stated that having the guns in a safe means that thebigc is being stupid: have you considered that thebigc may have children running all over the house? It may be impractical for him or her to have guns laying about unsecured. Not having a weapon is bad, but at least having access to them is better than not.

 

[migoi]

And my local papers...

this morning are carrying a story relating that all 911 service on Oahu was down for 13 minutes yesterday morning.

Thirteen minutes seems like a long time to have someone beat on your head with a claw hammer (well, 13 minutes plus the normal response time).

migoi

 

[Working Man]

Dial .357 then redial.... then dial 911.

 

[GI Jane]

To those who stated that having the guns in a safe means that thebigc is being stupid: have you considered that thebigc may have children running all over the house? It may be impractical for him or her to have guns laying about unsecured. Not having a weapon is bad, but at least having access to them is better than not.

I have 2 kids "running" around my house, I once was a kid "running" around a house that was wall to wall with loaded and ready to go guns all over the house.
(Most of the gus are in the safe in my hom now) That is why is it VERY important to TEACH children how to properly handle guns in a safe manner and it's also important that the "children" know just what a gun can do and what it purpose it for. I know I might get flamed for posting that but this is comeing from a person that has been around this her whole life. My dad had me shoot by the age of 4. I always got o hold and touch what I wanted but he made it very clear to me it was NOT a TOY and it could KILL me if not handled safely. I could operate and gun in our house efficently by the age of 6.

Parents do your job and htere is NOT a problem.

to adress what is comeing next; other kids visiting your home, Watch them and make sure tehy don't do into room with "lose" guns. or if you feel more comfortable Lock them but always keep a side arm ready folks you just never know....

 

[Medusa]

Yeah, another bad case and innocent life lost. Even dialing steel bar or a bat would be more effective than the cell phone (also it helps to learn to throw the damned thing accurately (afterthough - today's cells are too small and light to make any damage, but a full kilo/2 pounds of 10 year old brick - now we're talking about )- distraction while you grab the serious piece of hardware). Anyway it is very useful to have someting to enforce the safety of my castle - a FN FiveseveN at my case @20+1 rounds, so you WILL be able to call the 911 at all . Yeah, surely dead mane tell no tales, so always 2 in the chest and 1 in the head and after that also a warning shot (to do things properly - later it would be impossible to tell what shot was when fired..). one LEO told me that better the lawyer with dead client than with wounded one.

EDIT: two thumbs up on the education of kids relating the firearm toting around.