9mm Pistol Comparison (Range Report)...

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I went to the range today, and had the opportunity to compare two pistols you usually don't see together (or really, even in the same sentence). I'm talking about a new-to-me Beretta 92 Steel I, and a new-in-box Glock 17 Gen 3.

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The Steel I is a 45oz, SA semiauto with Beretta's Vertec-style backstrap. With my average-sized hands, it handles much better than the curved backstrap on the Beretta 92FS. The Steel I is also single action only, uses the standard 15 round Beretta 92 magazines, and has the safety on the frame instead of on the slide. Expensive? Yes, for a Beretta, but not compared to most custom 1911s.

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It's also very accurate. Shooting (expeditiously) 50 rounds of the Fiocchi 124gr FMJ 9mm ammunition I used for the test, it helped me produce this target at 7 yards:

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For me, that's excellent shooting.

Now for the Glock 17. I haven't held a Glock pistol since the early 1990s, and back then I wasn't very impressed. But after reading all the "Koolaid drinkers" on the internet, I decided to see what they were so excited about. A quick purchase from Bud's Gun Shop, and I soon had my very own Glock 17 Gen 3, weighing in at a trim 24 oz (with an empty magazine).

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Well, the looks were what I expected (not much), and the grip fit my hand OK, and it does hold 17 rounds of 9mm. So how did it perform?

It just shoots. Nothing dramatic, no histrionics, no fanfare. Aim using the easy-to-see sights, squeeze the 5.5 lb trigger, and the bullet ends up remarkably close to where I aimed. Time, after time, after time. I must confess that the only surprise the Glock had for me was it's performance over the chronograph. The Glock 17, with it's 4.49" barrel, actually out-performed the Steel I and it's 4.7" barrel (1175 fps vs. 1140 fps) with the Fiocchi test ammo.

I also feel I should comment on the ammo. I bought this Fiocchi 124gr FMJ ammo a couple a years ago because it was the cheapest brass-cased 9mm round I could find (I plan on reloading the brass). What nobody told me was that it's performance is top-notch, and it's some of the cleanest-burning commercial ammo I've ever used. It may not be "made-in-America", but it's very good nonetheless.

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So what did I learn? The Beretta Steel I is a mechanical, ergonomic, and visual wonder, capable of excellent performance, and well worth the money I paid. Conversely, the Glock 17 is an unpretentious workhorse that was 100% right out the box with surprisingly good performance. And I've still got 500 rounds of the Fiocchi 9mm ammo to play with.

Life is good.
 
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It's always good to keep an open mind. I was recently pleasantly surprised by my first experience with a gen. 1 G17. I'd always snubbed them for their looks. Now I'm looking to find one. Thanks for posting.
 
RidgwayCO, That Beretta is sure pretty.

Just curious, in your comparison, did the Beretta let you recover faster--less flip?
 
The Glock pistols hold a very special place in my heart ... purely because I carry anything compact or down.

I love the mini Glocks. The lot of them.
But in terms of full size pistols the Beretta in my opinion is probably the best firearm out there right now.

They seem to fill two different niches, to me at least.
 
1SOW, yes I think the Steel I's extra weight helped me get back on target quicker with less muzzle rise. Plus the recoil of the 9mm in a 45 oz pistol isn't really worth mentioning. Very comfortable.
 
1SOW, yes I think the Steel I's extra weight helped me get back on target quicker with less muzzle rise. Plus the recoil of the 9mm in a 45 oz pistol isn't really worth mentioning. Very comfortable.

I've had the same experience, and for me the Beretta points better/faster.

The Glock rifling may explain the speed contradiction.

I'm generally partial to steel/metal, but the XD and S@W polymers point better for me.
 
I would be curious how, exactly, the two guns compare in various shooting tests.

Which is more accurate? By how much?

Which allows faster rapid fire with accuracy?

Is one easier to shoot than the other? If so, which one and why?

Are there any "druthers" with either gun? What are they?
 
David E, to try to answer your questions:

1) In my hands, the Beretta is more accurate. Groups sizes at 7 yards were at least an inch less than the Glock.

2) The Beretta was also easier to shoot quickly with accuracy. The target I posted shows 50 rounds that were fired relatively quickly (less than 1 second per shot). I attribute this performance to the heavier weight and nice sights.

3) Subjectively, each was "easy to shoot". The Glock was surprisingly nice to handle, as its 5.5 lb trigger pull is very smooth, and recoil was easily absorbed by the polymer frame. The Beretta's single action trigger pull is only about 4 lbs, and is very crisp. I shot the Beretta better, but someone else may not.

4) It's hard for me to look at the Beretta 92 Steel I and not want one. It just oozes quality and design. I wouldn't change a thing on it, although a Lasermax guide rod laser would certainly increase shooting speed and accuracy in low light conditions. The Glock is much more utilitarian. The grip could be more comfortable, and less slick. I might be putting a rubber sleeve on it to increase the comfort.

Hope this helps.
 
Nope, sorry JoeMal, just the one target. OK, true confession, I forgot to bring targets to the range, and this is a target I found in the trash. The white stickers are covering the previous user's .22 LR rounds...
 
I saw one of those Berettas at a gun store about 5 years or so ago, and I have wanted one ever since. Just for the looks alone, it's amazing.
 
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