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But it is incredibly easy to work on and maintain, which is what I thought the OP was aking about.
 
In answering you question, a wheel gun or Glock would be the closest choices I can think of. If you are concerned with reliability, that is a different question. Although, wheel guns and Glocks seem to be VERY reliable.
 
Although, wheel guns and Glocks seem to be VERY reliable.
I would agree on Glocks (never owned one though). But placing the whole category of wheel guns alongside Glocks for reliability is a stretch. For starters, wheel guns will not handle the abuse that a Glock will stand up to. Maybe the whole "wheelgun = reliable" misconception derives from the fact that if a wheelgun doesn't fire, you can keep yanking the trigger???

Don't get me wrong, my revolver is more often my choice for CC than my autoloader and I'm very comfortable depending on it. It's just that some people tote a wheelgun and assume it's reliable when they have no idea of it's actual condition.
 
I'm still not buying that a Glock is mechanically simpler than a derringer.
And a wheelgun, with the various parts working in concert to line up the next round, lock the cylinder in place, cock and drop the hammer ... can't be simpler than a derringer.
 
my hi-point c9 has a total of 45 parts and 1 part i count as 2 because it was made from 2 parts but cant be taken apart. those 45 parts also include a spring and a bar that do absolutely nothing, now im counting everything that includes the adjustable sight,the magazine, every spring and every screw. someone said that this is an example that simple isnt always better but it can be good enough. i find my c9 to be very reliable as do many others.
 
I have never had a wheel gun misfire on me. A jam is much more common in a semi-auto than any functionally sound wheel gun. I agree Glocks are extremely reliable, but so are revolvers. If your revolver does not fire, it is probably poor quality ammunition or it is disrepair. I have NEVER had a wheel gun fail to fire. Maybe it is only me, but this is MY opinion and experiences... Truthfully, I would rather carry a 1911 govt. model than my .38spl, based on potency, but that is because I believe in the .45ACP. I have also never had a failure with my 1911 that was not related to my underpowered "test" reloads.

Also, the Makarov, in my opinion, is a very reliable, concealable and fairly potent weapon. I will gladly carry one and not feel under-gunned.
 
Agreed that a Glock cannot be simpler than a derringer. If that's the case, then I'm guessing a Glock is simpler than a piece of 9mm-diameter metal pipe, a hammer, and a nail?

(by the way, you should all know that'd more or less result in blowing yourselves up, right?)
 
Definately a Derringer.
Runner up would be an NAA mini-revolver
Then I think it'd be a S&W k-frame
then the rest.

The typical rule is break-aways have less parts than revolvers, which typically have less parts than auto-loaders.
 
eatont9999, I actually had a wheel-gun malfunction. The chamber did not line up with the forcing cone and it shaved copper and lead in between the forcing cone and the cyclinder and locked up the rotation of the cyclinder after three rounds.

Also, I said a 9mm revolver for cleaning and maintence easy.
 
Impossible! No revolver has ever failed, and when they do, the failures are easy to diagnose, and instantly cleared!

Sorry, but the cyclinder did lock-up. I had to send it to Taurus (it was a model 85), to get it fixed. The chambers were not lined up properly with the forcing cone. A gun, and yes even a wheel gun, is simply a machine and all machines can break or malfunction.

Personally, I like revolvers. I typically carry a S&W model 29 with a 3 inch barrel. It has never let me down, but it is possible to get a malfunctioning revolver.

I can attest to it.
 
The HKVP70Z is ok if you like the look of those old toy plastic disc guns and using both hands, a winch, a team of mules, two shetland ponies and a dog sled team to pull the trigger!

And of course there is that really useful and tactical European mag release on the bottom of the grip. Don't get me wrong, its a cool gun for what it is, but NOT the first gun I would tell a beginner to buy.
 
Oh yeah, revolvers do fail. S&W Model 66, cylinder bound up on the range one day. Its rare that they do, but NOT impossible.

ANYTHING can fail.
 
I agree with Keen One, after owning three Glocks and carrying a Kel-Tec 9mm for the past ten years, I'll stay with my Kel-Tec. Reliablity, compact size, hi-capacity (I carry the gun loaded with 10 rounds in the gun + a S&W 669 mag (11) for a reload). I short each mag one round to reduce the chances of any mag spring loosing tension noticeably. And I rotate mags every six weeks.
 
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