9mm to carry and shoot IDPA...CZ?

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Sooooo, I am in the market for a 9mm that I can both carry and shoot IDPA with. I have a few things that are at the top of the list. First, here are my requirements:

No polymers, weight is not an issue for me when carrying.

No 5 inch barrels. I'd prefer 3-4 inch.

Tell me the pros and cons of the following guns:

CZ 75 compact steel frame

CZ 75 compact alloy frame

CZ P01

CZ Rami ( I LOVE THIS GUN, but is it too small for IDPA?)

Also, how does the polycoat finish hold up, how does the satin nickel finish hold up? Holster recommendations?

Are the CZ's worth the extra 100-150 over the EAA witness? Are the CZ's better than the baby eagles? I know it's asking a lot, but let's try to get all these questions addressed. I'm excited and ready to buy.

If you have any other ideas let me know. Under 550-600 if possible.
 
I have one CZ and 2 Witness's so I guess you can see where this is going. There is nothing wrong with the CZ if it fits you, although you will be at a disadvantage shooting IDPA with a short barrel. I know people will tell you otherwise, but look through the lists of winners guns. I honestly just don't like CZ triggers, I think they suck for a gun in this price range. At least with my BHP's I can take out the mag disconnect and have a pretty decent trigger. Every, and I repeat, every CZ I have shot needed a trigger job. For me the double action pull is not conduucive at all to accuracy, and even in single action they are not exactly crisp from the factory. I have only shot CZ 40's, 75 B's and 97's though, so other models may be different.

If you can stand a standard length barrel I would go for a Witness Elite Match. Superb single action trigger, amazing accuracy, for about 1/2 the price of an equivalent CZ. I have one in .40 and would not trade it for anything, it even outshoots my BHP Competition. I switched to a 9mm Springfield XD Tactical for IDPA and it has really increased my speed on follow up shots. Weight is not an issue, the polymer frame seems to soak up recoil and get back on target faster. It may be all in my head, but the timers don't lie.
 
Thanks browning. Might I add I will not be shooting IDPA to be "awesome" and "beat others", moreso against myself if that makes sense. So I'd rather pass on a five inch barrel. Trigger pull is super important to me. My old baby eagle had an AWESOME trigger. Any others had trigger pull issues with the CZ?
 
I cannot believe I'm saying this.... Look at the Armalite 24 compact also.

I also would suggest the PCR, and contact manofsteel on this forum. He sells new CZ's with a better price than most.

Also, the Compact CZ is a good choice because you can use it Locked and Cocked and shoot ESP in IDPA.
 
I'd suggest either the PCR or P01, since the safety model CZs will put you in ESP, but you can shoot a decock model in SSP. I may be way off with that, but a 9mm that shoots SA is ESP afaik...

Both the PCR or P01 make great carry guns as well...
 
Sounds like you've talked yourself into the CZ, so get the dern thing.

CZ's also keep their values better than the others and the Baby Eagle is heavier than all get out.

Personally, I'm using a P6 or my BHP.
 
PCR is a alloy framed 9mm. Looks like the compact, but does not have a rail like the P01. It actually is a better carry gun than the P01.
 
Ah yes, I am leaning more towards the compact CZ 75 and have considered the alloy frame. Any idea about the "toughness" of the polycoat finish vs. satin nickel? Does the lighter alloy frame pose a serious recoil disadvantage for follow-up shots or is it negligible?
 
The PCR is model CZ 75BD PCR - built for the Police Czech Republic
it has the newer scroll marks on the side of the slide as compared to a
P01 as well as the newer three white dot sights, and a loaded chamber
indicator, the D suffix means it's a decocker no thumb
safety similiar to the P01 THey both have alloy frames
and the 3.9" Bbl. Len.

R-
 
How does that loaded chamber indicator work? Is it in your line of sight? My Ruger MarkIII has one out to the side, my SR-9 had one that popped up on top of the slide. How does this one work?
 
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How does that loaded chamber indicator work? Is it in your line of sight? My Ruger MarkIII has one out to the side, my SR-9 had one that popped up on top of the slide. How does this one work?
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The loaded chamber indicator on the PCR is a small silver button on top of the slide.
 
Loaded chamber indicator

This is (as already described) a small silver "button" that sits flush with the sight rib in the slide when the chamber is empty, and pops up (so you can both see and feel it) when the chamber is loaded. It is unobtrusive and does not snag on holsters. When the gun is held in firing position the LCI is not visible in the sight picture.
 
I think you did the right thing.

I now only suggest compacts to people who can only afford 1 handgun.

Otherwise, I suggest the 2 extremes. Glock 26/17. Rami/75.

etc.
 
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