a bullet,a stick & a rod--

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emmie

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was brought a new{6week old] rem 700 223cal. varmint rifle. owner handloaded a
LONG round and tryed to chamber. left bullet in barrel when he worked bolt.
his father,then takes and tryes to punch out with a green twig. broke that off.
now he takes 2 short cold rolled rods and tryes to punch out twig and bullet.
now we have bullet,twig,and short rod jamed in barrel.
now,father has to try again to save sons rifle,so he takes his punch and gives the base of the bullet a wack to center so he can drill out bullet.
could not get drill bit to bullet as to short.
at this point he being to me,so far i'v taken barrel off action and am soaking
bore with penetrateing oil.
I'm at a loss as to how to save this barrel,if i can. thinking about putting in 5c collet,and try drill and ez out from chamber end.
any/all suggestion welcomed

thank you for your time------emmie
 
Seems like s**t or bust time ...... not good. Guess If I had to try that I'd hope for a length of brass rod that was a good fit and working from muzzle ... just tap and tap and tap .. but of course the whole mess is probably impacted by now.

Could well be a new barrel needed in the end. I don't envy you.
 
If the bullet is jammed in tightly, maybe there's enough of a seal to push it out with compressed air. Don't know exactly how you get your air compressor hooked up to it though...
 
If all else fails, tap a grease nipple into the muzzle and pump it full of grease with a lever grease gun. They'll produce 10,000 psi, in theory. The grease should work around the rods and twig, pop the bullet out and flush the rods and twig. Of course you'll have to cut back the barrel and re-crown it. Good luck.

On second thought, fill the barrel with oil before you screw in the grease nipple. Oil will get past the obstructions easier than grease will.


Bye
Jack
 
If the barrel is off receiver , take barrel and drop it, breech end down on a piece of thick rubber resting on concrete floor. Kind of bounce it, straight up and down. MEASURE HOW FAR THE BULLET IS IN , bounce a few times , MEASURE AGAIN. If it moved even a little, keep going. If it didn't , on to plan B. SORT OF LIKE A BULLET PULLING HAMMER. GOOD LUCK.
 
First, before doing anything, warn the customer, in writing, that there is no guarantee you can extract the bullet without harming the barrel, and that by asking you to go ahead the customer accepts all responsibility. Get the customer to sign it. If he won't, wish him well and tell him to look in the yellow pages for another shop.

Here is something that might work. First, drill out the primer pocket of a .223 case with about a 1/8" drill and insert the case in the chamber. Use a long smaller drill with an extension to drill into the base of the bullet. (The case keeps the drill centered.)

Then weld a wood screw onto the end of a piece of drill rod. Remove the case and insert the screw into the hole drilled in the bullet, and screw it in as tight as you can. Then grasp the drill rod with visegrips and tap the pliers to pull the rod (and hopefully the bullet) out of the barrel.

Jim
 
I wonder - -

- -If it might work to obtain a really close-to-groove diameter rod - -Either hardwood dowel, or a fiberglas ramrod. Even a stiff rod of slightly smaller diameter, and attach a plug of JUST the proper diameter.

One could then fill the bore with oil from muzzle end, insert this rod arrangement (think PISTON), and pound on it with a mallet. I'm thinking the hydraulic pressure might move the bullet down to the chamber.

This is, of course, a modification of JackM's idea. Might be a good thing to try before ruining the muzzle end of the rifle. Having a decent gunsmith cut off the threads and recrown wouldn't be really cheap - - -

Just a thought. I hasten to admit, I've never tried this out.

Best of luck, emmie.
Johnny
 
Johnny's idea might work. All the air should be out of the barrel, or it will bounce and not jolt the stuck bullet, so I'd suggest filling the barrel with kerosene or diesel and giving it a day to soak down around the goodies. Next you need a perfect seal on the piston or it will get messy. A .22 Long Rifle bullet will fill the grooves after the first good tap. A bit of grease makes a better seal.

You could squeeze the bullet end-for-end a bit in a vise first and expand it a couple of thou. Use a brass rod just under barrel diameter to drive the slug. I've found that driving a lead slug with an undersized rod is not good, as the rod tries to punch through the slug. I'm afraid hardwood or fiberglass will spilt or shatter.

This one's ugly, no doubt about it.

Bye
Jack
 
Sir,
I agree with Jim with the exception that I would drill and tap the bullet and use a draw bolt to pull the slug back out to the chamber.
My reasoning is that there will be less pressure involved and no wiggling or thumping. ( I thump too hard ).
Also a shot of alcohal (SP) with air blast will chill and shrink the slug to help loosen it.
This is just my oppinion, good luck (SKILL) in what ever way you try. I would like to know how it turns out. Although I have an Idea the barrel has allready been ruined by the steel rods. If this is he case I ( being a vulture) would be interested in the rifle.

Thank,
Vern
 
I suspect the barrel is buggered already too, so put it into your vice and bash it all out from the chamber end. You could try to drill and tap the rod from the muzzle and try to pull it out too. That'd be tricky though.
 
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