A Friend Has An 1851 Navy Colt

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I went turkey hunting at a friend's property Saturday and after the day's vain efforts, my friend brought out this .36 caliber cap and ball revolver before the whiskey was in the jar at the dining room table. I asked if he'd contacted Colt's about researching it's background. He said Colt's said it would cost $300. He is a man of small means these days and he's not sure about whether the cost is justifiable or not, if it's not really worth anything.

So, I said I know some guys who might be able to provide a ballpark value.

I am not experienced in placing a value on the condition of a piece, but based upon the very good bluing, lack of scratches, silky smooth action, stocks without prominent dings, but with the unfortunate dings around the action/barrel/cylinder(?) release like someone was banging on it to get it to move, I'd give it a 75%.

The serial number is 1855XX and the number can be found in different places.

There is engraving on the cylinder of sailing ships and the words "engaged May 16, 1843" engraved in small letters at the forward end of the cylinder.
I googled the date and found that Colt's engraved some revolvers honoring the victory at the Battle of Campeche.

On the top strap, engraved are these words: "Address Col. Sam- Colt New York US America."

It has a brass frame and smooth wooden stocks.

I would appreciate it if some of you could find the time to suggest some kind of value to this revolver. I apologize for the lack of photgraphs. (I still can't seem to get it into my head that my cell phone has a camera in it.) Anything you suggest will be appreciated. Thank you.
 
We really need pictures. A repro would not have the Colt name and address on it (trademark violation), so I think there is confusion about the brass part.

Jim
 
My friend, you're probably right. I'll call him and ask if he'll take some pics. He has no internet, so I'll see what I can do...

My other buddy might go back down there soon so I'll ask him to take some pics.

You guys are great. Thank you.
 
I have a Euroarms .36 REMINGTON repro with an Address Sam'l Colt, New York City rollmark on the barrel.
With the Italians I'd rule nothing out.

If it has a brass frame (not just the gripframe), it's no Colt.

If Italian there should be a maker's name on the barrel somewhere, possibly covered by the lever.

Denis
 
1851, 44 caliber repros with Colt stampings.

They are out there.
 

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I bought a brass framed Italian reproduction .36 Colt back in 1969 for $29.95 out of Guns &Ammo magazine. Frame stretched after very few rounds.

I think they're some better these days.
 
Thank you all for your help. I'm going to call my friend to see if he can glean more information from the pistol and my other friend to see if he's going to return down there to see if he can bring back a photo.
 
I had my girlfriend's father buy a brass-framed .36 Navy repro at a local store for me in 1969 (I was 16).
I retired it before it stretched.
Denis
 
Most of the 1851 Navy reproductions do not have roll engraved cylinders or "Colt" markings on the top flat of the barrel. I would not jump to a quick conclusion here.

If the revolver is a genuine antique Colt the handle and trigger guard part of the frame should be brass. The posted serial number would indicate it was manufactured in 1866

While a reproduction is quite possible, it would be truly sad if the "elderly gentleman" sold the revolver for a way-too-low price because of incorrect information received from this forum. A lot more is required before reaching an indisputable conclusion
 
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Resist Evil - I'm also in the Denver area (Parker) and would be happy to shoot some good, detailed photos of it. I'm no expert on them, but I'd also be happy to look it over and offer an opinion. If it's nearby to this area, anyway. I don't want to drive several hours.
 
Old Fuff: Thank you for indicating that my poor description did not necessarily preclude the pistol's authenticity.

Rondog: Thank you for your kind offer. While I live near Broomfield, the pistol resides with its owner over in Crawford, CO. That place is beautiful!

I wish my friend down there had the internet. When I call him, I'll ask if there's someone close by whom he trusts who'd be willing to take photos and email them to me.
 
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