A fun thread, what weird wildcat do YOU wish was on the market and popular?

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Anchorite said:
How about a 41 magnum necked down to 357? It’s called the 356 GNR, available from Gary Reeder custom guns, out in Arizona. I have one in a T/C G2 barrel. Smokin .....
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I would like that in a lever gun.
What velocities do you get?
 
4570Tom said:
Elkins45: "The 308 has been necked up to 338 Federal and 358 Winchester. It's been necked down to 7mm-08 and 243. I wish there were a standardized 25 caliber version."


I have wondered that too.

With the .308 and 30-06 relationship you have:
308 Win and 30-06
358 Win and 35 Whelan
7mm-08 and 280 Rem

But...
?? and 25-06
260 Rem and ??
?? and 270 Win

Somebody must have stuck 25 caliber and 270 caliber bullets in a 308 case, and somebody else must have done the same with 6.5 bullets in a 30-06 case.
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I had a 6.5-06 about ten years ago. I don't remember any of the loads that I worked up for it but it was a great shooting rifle that out performed the 6.5-284 by a good 150 fps with 140 plus weight bullets. I especially liked the 160 grain Hornady round nose bullet in that rifle. It killed hogs quicker and cleaner than just about any other caliber I have used. If I remember correctly the 256 Newton was an early commercial attempt.

I'm certain that others have made both the 25-08 and the 270-08 but I personally have no knowledge of them.
 
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TTv2 said:
Yeah, because having a revolver the size of a Redhawk or an N frame that holds 6 rounds, but it only shoots a .357 bullet at about the same velocity of .357 Maximum makes sense.
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I would want it for BP round in SAA pattern revolvers. The hope would be to get 158 or 180gr .357 at over 1000fps (i.e. good SD at high velocities for BP). Kind of an upsized .32-20 concept.
 
It’s going to sound ridiculous, but I want to see more antiques brought back. Yes they failed, and often for good reason, but they served a purpose. If they were loaded in such manner to be safe for antique guns but use a saboted sub-caliber bullet then they could be enjoyed again safely and without reducing velocity an extreme amount.
 
mashaffer said:
I would want it for BP round in SAA pattern revolvers. The hope would be to get 158 or 180gr .357 at over 1000fps (i.e. good SD at high velocities for BP). Kind of an upsized .32-20 concept.
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There weren't many bottleneck cartridges for BP and the ones which did exist had very little shoulder. It's challenging to ensure a non-air gapped compressed load in a sharp bottleneck and there are rummors of strange pressure spikes even when done correctly.
 
illinoisburt said:
There weren't many bottleneck cartridges for BP and the ones which did exist had very little shoulder. It's challenging to ensure a non-air gapped compressed load in a sharp bottleneck and there are rummors of strange pressure spikes even when done correctly.
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I was thinking the .38-40 necked down a little more but I see the concern. I wonder how much BP fits in the .357 Maximum case.
 
For me it would be 5.56x24 which as far as I know is only loaded by one person who posted on a few forums about it...there are instructions for loading but it involves modifying dies and the like and I kinda doubt many people have gone to those lengths.

It’s basically a .22 TCM adjusted to allow use of standard .224 rifle bullets in a 9mm magazine. Typically fired from a gun converted to TCM9R (e.g. a Glock with a TCM conversion barrel).

I don’t have a personal need for it because I don’t have any TCM 9R-only guns, but 5.56x24 plus something like a XD-s 4.0 with a conversion barrel would make a useful little gun nowadays.

Then again, I tend to like high velocity pistol rounds. I’d buy a modern Tokarev if such a thing existed. When the .22 TCM came to my attention I bought one to have as an homage to the .22 Jet my dad owned, and since then I’ve bought four others so obviously it is doing something I like.
 
If the 30 carbine had been the 9mm carbine the military would want 115 or 125gr. If it had enough barrel twist to stabilize 147 that would be cool.

Hell even if they just made the 30 carbine with a slightly more modern barrel twist it would help a lot, like 1:16 or 1:12.
But the pointless 1:20 twist maxes out stabilization around 120 or 130gr.

Isn't 350 legend too long to fit in a 30 carbine mag?
 
A 50bmg that either isn't necked down, or shortened to make it straight wall.

Should put it at around .80 I believe
 
Looking at the specs you should be able to cut the brass at the shoulder and then squeeze a ~.70 caliber projectile in and still be able to fit in a standard magnum length action.
 
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