A question for the Old Guards in reloading.

[Mark_Mark]

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[ParallelCode]

Well now I’m waiting anxiously. Press and powder dispenser is supposed to show up sometime this week. Haven’t had any issues with porch pirates in the past, but lord knows this would be my unlucky day.

Perhaps I missed it in the thread, but what press and powder dispensing mechanism did you end up going with?

 

[KansasTrapper77]

Perhaps I missed it in the thread, but what press and powder dispensing mechanism did you end up going with?

I was going to go with a RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme to match my father’s and an RCBS ChargeMaster Link (I have an RCBS 505 beam already). I had been closely watching them on Midway and as Father’s day approached Midway had a sale and Vista Outdoor’s had a Rebate. Then a few of my shooting buddies told me to sit tight.

This weekend they told me between a few of them they had ordered me an RCBS Rebel and an RCBS MatchMaster Scale for me as a wedding present. In typical Midwest fashion they told me not to worry about it they didn’t pay full price.

So I can’t thank those idiots enough and now I’m reading everything there is to read about how to use the fancy scale.

If I get a decent trimmer and some hand tools I’ll be on my way. Steal the dies I need from the old man till I find a sale (I don’t like paying full price for things) Probably start with some .243 and 45-70

 

[OLDE RETIRED COASTIE]

for when things get tough, I have a RCBS single stage rock chucker, a Lee turret press , and a brand new Hornady lock n load progressive press. Oh and if any body wants em, three (03) Lee Pro 1000s for pistol loading.
One was given to me, one I bought new, and one I got for about 15 dollars. Will let them go cheap.

I load, 38 special, 357 mag, 38 super, 45 acp, 45 colt, 7.62x51 nato/308 winchester, 30-06, and 45-70. My AR-10 is 308 winchester but will fire 7.62x51.

 

[KansasTrapper77]

Press came in yesterday. Need to make a solid riser. Hoping trimmer and some dies come in before the weekend.

 

[Soonerpesek]

Press came in yesterday.

If WE don't see some pics...........how can WE really be sure of what WE heard you tell us................!!!...............

 

[ParallelCode]

Press came in yesterday. Need to make a solid riser. Hoping trimmer and some dies come in before the weekend.

Take a look at Inline Fabrication's Ultramount system (I like the Quick-change version). https://inlinefabrication.com/

I'm betting they do a sale for the 4th.

 

[KansasTrapper77]

Take a look at Inline Fabrication's Ultramount system

I’m glad you mentioned those!

I’ve watched UltimateReloader rant and rave about them but they look like they flex alot in use. Does that not throw stuff/precision off? I understand the press isn’t flexing but the stand is.

 

[Blue68f100]

If there is flex going on its due to a very flimsy bench top. The Ultramount distributes the load over a lot larger area reducing flex in a bench.

 

[KansasTrapper77]

I was thinking about making something like this on the farm this weekend.

But with a larger base. And probably some extra support to the plates

 

[ParallelCode]

I’m glad you mentioned those!

I’ve watched UltimateReloader rant and rave about them but they look like they flex alot in use. Does that not throw stuff/precision off? I understand the press isn’t flexing but the stand is.

My Ultramount doesn't flex, at least not that I've noticed. I've observed the flex in his videos though, just as you have. Mine is bolted to my bench permanently, whereas Gavin is using his benchtop rail system if memory serves.

 

[Walkalong]

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I was thinking about making something like this on the farm this weekend.

But with a larger base. And probably some extra support to the plates

Those are beasts already. I have some storage bins exactly like those in the pic.

 

[AJC1]

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I was thinking about making something like this on the farm this weekend.

But with a larger base. And probably some extra support to the plates

There is zero chance you could flex that if all materials were .25 or better. You could drill matching flywheel holes on one of those plates and mount a Chevy 350 horizontal

 

[KansasTrapper77]

There is zero chance you could flex that if all materials were .25 or better. You could drill matching flywheel holes on one of those plates and mount a Chevy 350 horizontal

if its worth building its worth overbuilding right haha?

 

[9mmepiphany]

I’m glad you mentioned those!

I’ve watched UltimateReloader rant and rave about them but they look like they flex alot in use. Does that not throw stuff/precision off? I understand the press isn’t flexing but the stand is.

I have three Inline Fabrication (IF) mounts on my bench and have helped a couple of friends set theirs up also.

None of the IF mounts flex. They are much sturdier than the Strong Mounts offered by Dillon, The geometry of the legs cause all force applied from running the press to go straight down

The "flex" you're seeing on Gavin's videos are due to the "T-rails" on his bench

 

[JFrank]

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I was thinking about making something like this on the farm this weekend.

But with a larger base. And probably some extra support to the plates

You should not have to apply Gorilla force to simply resize a brass case’ even the larger cartridges while using good fitting dies should size smoothly.
Jim

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

You should not have to apply Gorilla force to simply resize a brass case’ even the larger cartridges while using good fitting dies should size smoothly.

What he said.

I saw that .303Brit is one of your choice rounds. I reload them on the same bar stool rig with an RCBS Partner as I do everything else - including 8mm Mauser and 7.65mm Argentine. And that's also using "cheap" Lee dies and just a smear of Imperial wax. If you're forcing the cases enough to flex a steel stand mounted on a solid wood bench, there's something else wrong in your process.

 

[KansasTrapper77]

For sure, I understand you don’t need to go hog wild on stuff I just want to remove extra flex when I can.

But I like to hear the stands are not as flexible as they appear on those videos.

 

[Soonerpesek]

For sure, I understand you don’t need to go hog wild on stuff I just want to remove extra flex when I can.

But I like to hear the stands are not as flexible as they appear on those videos.

I have a Dillon mounted on a Dillon Strong Mount......We are prolly pretty close location to one another, you could check it out if you like.....

 

[AJC1]

if its worth building its worth overbuilding right haha?

I have justified that many times using the materials on hand. If your on a farm just use a disk spacer. Depending on how modern the farm is they are on the 50s disks I payed with.
Trying to remove flex is only critical in the press to die interface, handled in spades by your choice of an rcbs reble.

 

[9mmepiphany]

I have a Dillon mounted on a Dillon Strong Mount......We are prolly pretty close location to one another

They aren't even close in either structure or material.

The Inline Fabrication has a top plate for mounting the press and have an additional lateral brace near the base and their material is at least 50% thicker...even the Armanov Strong Mounts are superior to the Dillon

Inline Fabrication


Dillon Strong Mount

 

[ParallelCode]

As @9mmepiphany noted, the ultramount is indeed heavily built. I own three, and have even given them as gifts to new loaders. The quick change version allows you to make the best use of precious bench space. I have QC plates for my presses, my trimmer, swager, etc.

The other nice thing is all the accessories they sell which bolt onto the mount and QC plates -- I have an articulating powder measure arm and bullet tray arm on one of ultramounts.

 

[9mmepiphany]

The other nice thing is all the accessories they sell which bolt onto the mount and QC plates -- I have an articulating powder measure arm and bullet tray arm on one of ultramounts.

I'm sometimes embarrassed by how many accessories I have on my mounts

I could justify the Output tray, articulated Bullet trays, and Piggyback die holders for the Hornady LNL. The cost involved when outfitting the Lee Classic Case single stage gave me a bit of pause.

Adding the Quick Change Ultramount, Ergo handle, and the Case Eject system was more than I spent on the press...and I haven't added the articulated bullet trays yet

 

[Soonerpesek]

They aren't even close in either structure or material.

I didn't ever say they were.......

It's supporting a handloading press..........not a 20 ton shop press.........!!

I was just offering the guy a chance to see it in person if he wanted......

Thanks for answering for him tho, I'm sure he appreciates it......

 

[ParallelCode]

I didn't ever say they were.......

It's supporting a handloading press..........not a 20 ton shop press.........!!

I was just offering the guy a chance to see it in person if he wanted......

Thanks for answering for him tho, I'm sure he appreciates it......

I think that's a nice offer. When I was starting out I would have jumped at the chance to network locally with someone experienced.