A Word to the Wise:

[Vern Humphrey]

There are other sources of ammo

Yep. You just have to look around.

 

[Zoer]

ammo rush

buy when everyone is selling ,,, sell when everyone is buying,,,,, why cant I take my own advice?

 

[ACP]

so true! cause, you know, under obama, i've only been able to.... buy anything i want. huh.

 

[Shaq]

Not that it will do any good, but I would like to remind all those who were crying "Hoarder", "Greedy" and other less cordial names at people like me who maintain a sensible stock of ammo and reloading supplies during the last run on supplies that now is the time to prepare.

In the past couple of months I have been adding to my stockpile of .22 LR ammo, "sensible" quantities of primers, powder and bullets for my favorite calibers and firearm assembly components. It does not take a rocket surgeon or brain scientist to see what is going to happen as we get closer to this election and, heaven help us, if the predicted landslide occurs.

Right now there is plenty of decent quality .22LR out there for .07-.08 cents per round, primers at 2.7 cents apiece, powder at $20-25/lb and common bullets at .07-.09 cents each. AR lowers can be had for $40 each, decent BCGs for $80 and the list goes on. No, the prices are not like they were pre-Obama, but I'll wager that in 2 years we will look back at these as "the good old days".

Some may call this hoarding, I call it preparation and planning. Do with this advice what you will, but in year 2 of the Hillary reign while I am continuing to shoot at my normal rate, don't question my methods.

Buy now!

Take it as a compliment. What they're really saying is, "You're smarter than I am...you think ahead & I don't."

 

[Vern Humphrey]

buy when everyone is selling ,,, sell when everyone is buying,,,,, why cant I take my own advice?

Because you're like me -- you buy ammo to shoot, not to sell.

Although I'm always on the alert for bargains, and buy all I can when the price is right. I just don't sell it.

 

[CDW4ME]

Its no so much hoarding thats the issue for some, its that some people buy supplies/ammo and not leave any for others who also want to stock up.

I don't have a problem if someone buys a box or 2 of ammo every few days. But if someone buys the entire stock of 9mm or 22lr that is on the shelf, that is an issue.

But if a person buys all the boxes of 22lr or 9mm that gets supplied in a lgs and leaves none for other shooters, that is not considerate IMO.

Buy all you want, I don't care. I care for the shooting community in general.

There are a few restrictive places where you can't have ammo shipped to your door; however, the majority of us live in "free" states.

In the "free" places it would take a lackadaisical outlook on acquiring ammo to think:
"No 22lr, 9mm, 10mm, 357 Sig, 45 GAP ect... in the mart or lgs, so I just won't have it".
I don't understand eschewing the convenience of home ammo delivery.

 

[FROGO207]

I pride myself on being self reliant when things go sour (not IF). The week long power outage locally a couple years ago. The blockbuster snow storm and resulting power/travel interruptions. Any other man made or natural disaster that impacts me locally. I have the means to be self reliant for a set time. That includes food stores, shelter, MEDS, and self defense, or foraging for food. I am a hoarder by definition I guess and as so will not suffer unduly. Gosh that reminds me, the popcorn I consumed reading this thread needs to be replenished--and soon. YMMV

My most recent upgrade was a pair of 40 CAL handguns due to the fact that the last ammo to leave the LGS shelves in the "panic" was 40 CAL and I owned nothing to use it in. That was followed closly behind by a set of dies and a couple bullet molds to go along with them.

 

[buck460XVR]

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Although I'm always on the alert for bargains, and buy all I can when the price is right. I just don't sell it.

Same here....and because I am not driven by the unfounded fear that has driven the last two ammo/gun shortages, I buy what I can afford at the time. I don't push my credit card debt and I don't give up something else just because "OMG, there's an 8# jug of H110!". That's one difference between being prepared and hoarding.

One of the funniest things I saw being displayed here and on other gun type forums during the last two shortages was this "look what I got!" attitude when certain folks found a brick of .2lR or a Jug of W231. Many had to post a pic as if folks couldn't remember what they looked like. While one poster was lamenting they couldn't find .22LR to take their grandkids out shooting, another poster would post a pic of ten bricks and proclaim "I got mine!" just to rub grandpa's nose in it....almost inferring he was a bad grampa for not being able to take his grandkids shooting. It got so folks were bragging about every little purchase as if it was a monumental accomplishment and some form of superior manliness or skill. I dunno. I had ammo and I had components. No it wasn't like there was a ton of it left on the shelves @ the LGS, but I had enough. Sometimes I had to hold off shooting one caliber at the range, but I always had something else to shoot. Shotgun ammo never was hard to find, always had plenty of that. Never felt the whole Imperial Japanese Army was going to invade my neck of the woods, so having 20,000 rounds of every caliber was not a huge priority. Always had more than enough for SD/HD and hunting. Never thought I had won the lottery when I found a brick of .22LR on the shelf. Never felt the need to create a whole thread because I found a brick of primers.

Maybe I'm just a bad grandpa......

 

[Reloadron]

I pride myself on being self reliant when things go sour (not IF). The week long power outage locally a couple years ago. The blockbuster snow storm and resulting power/travel interruptions. Any other man made or natural disaster that impacts me locally. I have the means to be self reliant for a set time. That includes food stores, shelter, MEDS, and self defense, or foraging for food. I am a hoarder by definition I guess and as so will not suffer unduly. Gosh that reminds me, the popcorn I consumed reading this thread needs to be replenished--and soon. YMMV

My most recent upgrade was a pair of 40 CAL handguns due to the fact that the last ammo to leave the LGS shelves in the "panic" was 40 CAL and I owned nothing to use it in. That was followed closly behind by a set of dies and a couple bullet molds to go along with them.

Think about it, it's not just ammunition or reloading components. Years ago my mother-in-law had brain surgery which did not go well. She remained in a vegetative state for 8 years and as I saw more and more home care equipment come into the house it dawned on me with a power failure we would be screwed. I bought a portable generator for emergencies. After her passing when we did considerable remodeling I added the whole house generator. Enough to power the neighbors.

Whenever we are out shopping I look for any sales on ammunition or reloading components as well as online. When I see something I use I buy it whether I have a need or not. We are fortunate to be in that position. Yeah, reliant covers it well. Having survived the 90s there were lessons learned.



During the last shortage I always shared, just like we do with electricity during storms. I never bought for resale. Goes around and comes around.

Ron

 

[rodregier]

Primary value of threads like this appearing periodically is as instruction to the new members of the gun culture. They didn't experience all of the prior "banics".

 

[Reloadron]

Primary value of threads like this appearing periodically is as instruction to the new members of the gun culture. They didn't experience all of the prior "banics".

Exactly and when a nightmare like that which followed Sandy Hook happens those are the people hurt most. It's a fragile system and another Sandy Hook type disaster can trigger a mess at any time.

Ron

 

[buck460XVR]

It's a fragile system and another Sandy Hook type disaster can trigger a mess at any time.

Ron

But the mess created after Sandy Hook and the previous two Presidential elections were triggered by fellow gun owners who thought they were being wise......not anything done by bans or regulations. They thought they were just giving "words to the wise", but in reality were creating the "banics". The enemy was not gun grabbers, Obama or liberals, but ourselves.

As for the generator and helping out neighbors in need, good for you Ron. Here in Wisconsin we do a similar thing when it snows. Some of us folks have bigger snowblowers and get up early and not only clear our driveways, but also clear the driveways of less fortunate neighbors that have only shovels, so they too can get to work. At the same time there are those folks that stop and want to be paid to do it. Like the "banics", the prediction of another "monumental blizzard" sees shovel and snowblowers disappearing from area hardware stores and the price of used pieces of junk skyrocket. America....you just gotta love it.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

I'm not a prepper -- I'm an old Ozarker. When I built my retirement home in the Ozarks, I knew about ice storms and power outages, so I have a fully finished basement with a wood burning stove. What with tornados, ice storms, floods and the remnant of a hurricane, my wife and I spent 30 days and nights living in the basement heating with wood and using a Coleman lantern in one 12-month period.

I buy .22 LR by the case (5,000 rounds) and usually have 2 or 3 cases on hand. I buy primers by the slip (5,000 each) and have about the same amount of each size on hand. I have moulds for every gun I have, from .22 Hornet to .45 Colt, and a lot of wheel weights I have cadged from tire dealers over the years.

All this is normal for me. I have made one concession to possible shortages -- I have figured out I can load everything I have with 3 powders -- Bullseye for .38 Special, .45 ACP and low-level .22 Hornet (duplicates .22 LR.) I use Li'l Gun for .22 Hornet, .357 Mag and .45 Colt. And I use Varget for everything else.

 

[Radagast]

Sandy Hook was telling because a school was shot up and the resulting Federal gun ban failed to pass. Heavy lobbying by the NRA probably saved the day.
In times of antigun hysteria, sending some money to NRA-ILA, your local state org or evening buying a membership here rather than panic buying ammo would be the rational thing to do.
That said, buying for future use is smart. A decade ago I stocked up on 9mm Silvertips at $10. I still have a few packets left and the current Australian price is $50. There have been times since then when I've been too broke to buy ammo. Judicious rationing meant I was always able to go shooting.