AARRHHH........ I caved in. Mossberg 500 mods
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Preacherman
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Next is the pink fur fuzz mat on the side of the receiver, for urban camouflage... 
Dave McCracken
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(Sadly shaking old grey head)....
Go ahead, get it out of your system. When you pitch that PG into the trash with your left hand because doing it RH will aggrevate your tendonitis, come back to the Light...
Normal's not a word I use much,especially about shotgunning...
Go ahead, get it out of your system. When you pitch that PG into the trash with your left hand because doing it RH will aggrevate your tendonitis, come back to the Light...
Normal's not a word I use much,especially about shotgunning...
Al Thompson
Moderator Emeritus
Ammo is the best start. Shoot the 500 and then start picking your parts.
Dave:
im Left handed! im screwed up anyway
AL: ive had this Moss 500 for years. heck im on the second barrel. just thought i would do something a little different....................on a side note the PG is back in the parts box what a waste. i coulda bought more ammo!
im Left handed! im screwed up anyway
AL: ive had this Moss 500 for years. heck im on the second barrel. just thought i would do something a little different....................on a side note the PG is back in the parts box
what a waste. i coulda bought more ammo!Al Thompson
Moderator Emeritus
Yeah, me too. Owned three - anybody want a Pachmyer set for a 1300?
What are you planning to use the M500 for, anyway? They are great SGs - my bro-in-law dug one out of a Arkansas duck pond (stepped on it), hosed it off and shot it. Durability with a capital "D".
Owned three - anybody want a Pachmyer set for a 1300?What are you planning to use the M500 for, anyway? They are great SGs - my bro-in-law dug one out of a Arkansas duck pond (stepped on it), hosed it off and shot it. Durability with a capital "D".
Nightcrawler
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If you REALLY must have a pistol grip, get one of the Pachmayr gripper models. They have the same cushy goodness as their Decellerator magnum revolver grips, and won't abuse your hand.
Using low-recoil loads ("tactical loads, if you must use that term) and the cushy grip make shooting the PG shotgun doable, but certainly not as precise as having a good, old-fashioned buttstock on there.
Using low-recoil loads ("tactical loads, if you must use that term) and the cushy grip make shooting the PG shotgun doable, but certainly not as precise as having a good, old-fashioned buttstock on there.
Al
to be honest i used to use it as a HD weapon that the wife an i could both use. i now prefer my pistol or revolver. an she is getting a 20 ga win 1300 that is more comfy for her.
i pretty much use it for just about everthing you can think of that you can do with a 20 inch bbl synthetic stock 12 ga (no i dont change the channels on the tv with it)
ive had it for about 4 years an have run many many rounds of Wall-mart 15$ packs of 100 rd bird shot through it. i have used it to shoot rabbits, birds, targets (one hell of a paper killer ) plywood cut to silhoetes, paint cans, abondoned cars in the desert, snakes, flying clay target shooting, Flare Launching (hence 2nd bbl) an even just left it in the truck as i travelled. but now with a 01 mazda 2500 it takes up too much room behind the seat (with all the other crap) an i thought i would try a PG grip to see what the rave revues were all about. im not impressed.
what are "Tactical loads" an where do you get those? never heard of em before except for Police/Military use
to be honest i used to use it as a HD weapon that the wife an i could both use. i now prefer my pistol or revolver. an she is getting a 20 ga win 1300 that is more comfy for her.
i pretty much use it for just about everthing you can think of that you can do with a 20 inch bbl synthetic stock 12 ga (no i dont change the channels on the tv with it)
ive had it for about 4 years an have run many many rounds of Wall-mart 15$ packs of 100 rd bird shot through it. i have used it to shoot rabbits, birds, targets (one hell of a paper killer
) plywood cut to silhoetes, paint cans, abondoned cars in the desert, snakes, flying clay target shooting, Flare Launching (hence 2nd bbl) an even just left it in the truck as i travelled. but now with a 01 mazda 2500 it takes up too much room behind the seat (with all the other crap) an i thought i would try a PG grip to see what the rave revues were all about. im not impressed. what are "Tactical loads" an where do you get those? never heard of em before except for Police/Military use
Sunray
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"...im Left handed! im screwed up anyway..." Only because you butcher the Queen's English. Shooting a long gun left is normal. A pistol grip on a shotgun, on the other hand, is a waste of money. The absolutely most useless thing in this world is a shotgun with no stock.
Sunray:
well pardon me!
i think a shotgun with no ammo is more useless. an this was an experiment not a
"PGs are so cool " Rant
(picture a bubbly blond making that statement and youll get my emotions of it)
however Andrew in another post nailed. PGs suck but folders are great for space saving requirements
well pardon me!
i think a shotgun with no ammo is more useless. an this was an experiment not a
"PGs are so cool " Rant
(picture a bubbly blond making that statement and youll get my emotions of it)
however Andrew in another post nailed. PGs suck but folders are great for space saving requirements
Dave McCracken
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Easy guys, let's stay on The High Road.
I gotta get hold of one of those PGs.
Not to shoot.
I'm gonna spray paint a set Blaze Orange and hang them off my rear view mirror like giant Fuzzy Dice....
I gotta get hold of one of those PGs.
Not to shoot.
I'm gonna spray paint a set Blaze Orange and hang them off my rear view mirror like giant Fuzzy Dice....
If you absolutely have to have a compact shotgun, get one of the side folding Choate stocks. Not as cheap as a pistol grip, but at least you'll be able to mount the shotgun properly.
If I were looking to accessorize, the first thing I'd buy would be a youth stock to cut the length of pull down to about 13 inches.
Jeff
If I were looking to accessorize, the first thing I'd buy would be a youth stock to cut the length of pull down to about 13 inches.
Jeff
yellowcarbon
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I think with proper technique and pratice, a pistol gripped shotgun can be very useful in a confined area. I think the problem with pistol gripped shotguns is that most people use the wrong technique and don't practice with it. Plus it has pretty harsh recoil that with much shooting, will cause brusing and bleeding. As an all around set up, a pistol gripped shotgun is a poor choice. I believe that out in the field a full stock is way more useful. But in a home or car, where room is at a premium, a pistol grip shotgun is can be very handy. It takes lots of practice and upperbody strength (I'm 6'3" 300#) to handle correctly and effectively. I absolutely agree that it isn't for those not willing to practice or without the strength to handle it. But with practice and strength, it can be extremely effective and intimidating tool. I can hit skeet with my pistol gripped shotgun pretty consistantly. The trick is to bring the shot gun up to eye level just like shooting a pistol. You need the upper body strength to keep it from hitting you in the nose. You sight down it like you would with a full stock. It is as fast on target and pretty accurate out to 30-40yards, which is where a shotgun is most useful. Recoil is heavy, but you are dishing it out also. Shotguns in the defensive role is for putting lead on target. I believe that a pistol gripped shotgun, used correctly, can be your best friend when something goes bump in the night.
Dave McCracken
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(Sigh)....
Yellowcarbon, punch my name into the search engine, add PG in the proper space, and read a few reams of why PG only setups are bad juju on shotguns.
You may indeed shoot skeet with one. When was the last time you ran them?
The effort put into getting soso with a PG is about what it takes to get DEADLY with a standard stocked shotgun.
And, I'll wager the usual flagon of mead I've done more hip shooting with a folded folder than the whole passel of PG fans here has.
Yellowcarbon, punch my name into the search engine, add PG in the proper space, and read a few reams of why PG only setups are bad juju on shotguns.
You may indeed shoot skeet with one. When was the last time you ran them?
The effort put into getting soso with a PG is about what it takes to get DEADLY with a standard stocked shotgun.
And, I'll wager the usual flagon of mead I've done more hip shooting with a folded folder than the whole passel of PG fans here has.
yellowcarbon
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I agree with you 100% that a full stocked gun is much quicker for skeet or 99% of defensive shooting. I also believe that for a general purpose defensive arm, you should definitely go with a full stock gun (that is what I got). But in certain, very specialized conditions, a PGO shotgun can be used effectively. Especially if one is willing to train with it, which is 90% of the problem with any type of firearm. Examples of its usfulness that I can think of is shooting from inside a vehicle, in very tight foilage, as a door buster, inside a ship, plinking, etc. In certain areas in Hawaii, pig hunters use PGO shotguns because the foilage is so tight. While I believe that its role is extremely limited and specialized, in those roles it can be extremely effective. I believe it to be like a rifled 12ga slug gun w/ a magnified optic, used in its rightful role, very effective.
Dave McCracken
Moderator In Memoriam
You've the right to your opinion, but legit uses for a PG only SG are scarcer than Statesmen in Government.
A PG only shotgun is basically an ungainly, hard kicking handgun of mediocre accuracy and great power. Power without control is worse than useless.
A PG only shotgun is basically an ungainly, hard kicking handgun of mediocre accuracy and great power. Power without control is worse than useless.
fivepaknh
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I’m getting into this topic late, but I’m with yellowcarbon on this one. My primary HD gun is my Taurus PT945. The Mossberg is locked up and unloaded, but it does have a PG that came with it, along with a full stock. I’m not nearly as large as yellowcarbon, but I don’t have any problem firing magnums from my 500. I’ve added the forend grip so both hands absorb the recoil. I fire mine only for fun at the range. It’s a novelty to me. Though due to its compact size it does have practical applications as yellowcarbon stated.
Dave McCracken
Moderator In Memoriam
five, if you ever get down to MD bring that PG. I've a little wager for you...
fivepaknh
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Dave
This is my first shotgun and I don't use it often. With or without a PG there's no doubt I'd take a beating in a shotgun competition against you. I agree that in most situations a full stock is more advantageous. Like I said though, I don’t use it for HD. It’s a range toy.
This is my first shotgun and I don't use it often. With or without a PG there's no doubt I'd take a beating in a shotgun competition against you. I agree that in most situations a full stock is more advantageous. Like I said though, I don’t use it for HD. It’s a range toy.
Dave McCracken
Moderator In Memoriam
Range toy it is. But, there's a good defensive tool in there just waiting to get out once fitted with a good stock. Your call...
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