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I am a lifetime member of the NRA. I appreciate all that they've done, and are doing in the name of firearms and the 2A.
I somehow also got hooked up with The Liberty counsel. They do a lot in the same dept, as well some others.
These days I swear I must get at least 2 or 3 emails from each of them.
I think liberty counsel is probably the worst. They will keep one informed of firearms bills, but they also get to hand wringing about gay rights, gays in the boyscouts, marriage, and numerous other stuff.
Delete isn't a hard button to press, but all this is starting to do my head in.
Am I alone here?
 
Probably not the reply you are seeking but in short I will just say that there are many organizations as well as their members who look at things in a traditional way.
I am one of those people and I believe that we as a country are moving far from what are considered our traditional core values and that is not just regarding the 2A.
I am also of a belief that while there are minorities in all factions for the most part those who follow more conservative views also favor the 2A in a majority not seen in other groups.
I will use my state of CO as a case in point, bad gun legislation wasn't the only bad law that passed or voted on by it's citizens or their representatives lately recently.
 
Am I alone here?
Nope. Happens to everybody. Happened to me bad a couple of months ago during the run up to the Democrat Party Gun Grab fiasco. Got to the point that everything I got in the mail was prefaced with-If you don't (fill in the blank) immediately, the world may very well end before you go to sleep tonight.
It doesn't take too long to get fed up with all of this stuff and just resign yourself to the notion that the wheels are falling off everything.
A trick that I've learned is to just go to one of the libby sites-DU, Huffpo, Move-on etc and read some of thier ramblings. Before long I find myself smiling because they are all on near suicide watch because of how bad they percieve things to be.
I truly believe that the two major political parties are in kahoots and are of one mind in keeping the populace (both sides) agitated.
When everybody is preoccupied with the governments attempts at running over your rights, they aren't paying attention to the destruction of the economic/social foundations of the country.
We have to keep our eyes on that ball.
 
Since those emails have offended you to point that you started a thread on the matter, I wouldn't hesitate to unsubscribe, but that's just me. :)
 
Unless an organization support EVERYONES rights (or they only focus support a single aspect, like NRA), they don't see any of my money or attention.

This is why I'm glad NRA doesn't (yet) try to dabble in other conservative matters. It would cause me to drop them like a hot stone.
 
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I agree with Tye, I won't support a group that is an advocate for my freedom, while wishing to curtail another's freedom, based on "traditional values".
The "right" to enslave other human beings was a traditional value at one time.
 
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As I hear it the NRA will send you a tree a month in shenanigans.. unless you tell them to not do that. Two e-mails a month is pretty much a non-issue, especially since you can stop those from happening and or use a dedicated account for just such shenanigans.
just don't aarp
 
I'm right with you. I've been deleting them as they come in, but I'm so fed up of the right wing fear mongering that I'm going to unsubscribe. I get an easy half dozen emails a day. NAGR is one if the worst. Three or four emails daily, most of them duplicates, all going on about the end of the second amendment, but all I need to do is send them money.

I swear, some of these pro-2A / conservative groups must get their news from Info Wars.
 
Tyeo098 writes:

If an organization doesn't support EVERYONES rights, (or they only actively support a single aspect, like NRA) they don't see any of my money or attention.

This is why I'm glad NRA doesn't (yet) try to dabble in other conservative matters. It would cause me to drop them like a hot stone.
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I'm confused here. First, you say if an organization supports only a "single aspect" of everyone's rights, they get none of your money or attention. Then, you say if the NRA (which does support only a "single aspect") were to dabble in more, you'd "drop them like a hot stone."

How can you drop an organization that already gets none of your attention?
 
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I'm right with you. I've been deleting them as they come in, but I'm so fed up of the right wing fear mongering that I'm going to unsubscribe. I get an easy half dozen emails a day. NAGR is one if the worst. Three or four emails daily, most of them duplicates, all going on about the end of the second amendment, but all I need to do is send them money.

I swear, some of these pro-2A / conservative groups must get their news from Info Wars.
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Thats it. Just send me da money and I can fix it for you.
 
Spend 10 minutes figuring out how filtering works in your particular email client, another 5 creating a few filters, and forget about those emails.

Personally, I shift 'em off into a folder so I can look through 'em if I want, but you can also auto-delete if that's your thing.
 
I'm confused here. First, you say if an organization supports only a "single aspect" of everyone's rights, they get none of your money or attention. Then, you say if the NRA (which does support only a "single aspect") were to dabble in more, you'd "drop them like a hot stone."

How can you drop an organization that already gets none of your attention?
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Took me a minute too, but I got it.

He's saying that IF the NRA branched out into some kind of broader scope, like anti-gay or anti-immigration, or some other areas some people try to stick under the banner of "Conservative Values" then he would drop them.

Makes sense to me.
 
I'm all for supporting other rights, but when I'm giving money or time to a specific cause, I don't want it going elsewhere. I have dropped my support for other organizations for that reason.
 
Took me a minute too, but I got it.
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Yeah, I had to think about it for a bit too, but I'm the same way.

When Wayne did his P.N. presser and went off into talk that would support laws against "violent video games", and, "violent movies", I sent the NRA a letter that boiled down to this:

"Don't attack some civil rights to defend others. I want them all."
 
I tried to clarify my post a bit. We ran out of coffee in the office this morning.

Ed Ames said:
Yeah, I had to think about it for a bit too, but I'm the same way.

When Wayne did his P.N. presser and went off into talk that would support laws against "violent video games", and, "violent movies", I sent the NRA a letter that boiled down to this:

"Don't attack some civil rights to defend others. I want them all."
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Exactly.

WLP attacking video games is just as bad as Bloomburg and the Brady bunch attacking guns.

Sam1911 said:
He's saying that IF the NRA branched out into some kind of broader scope, like anti-gay or anti-immigration, or some other areas some people try to stick under the banner of "Conservative Values" then he would drop them.
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Right, while I am pro-gun to the core (my parents frequently refer to my basement as an 'arsenal' which I keep having to correct them as ARMORY) I do not support restrictions on the other rights of others (Gay marriage, etc)
If NRA were to announce a new Pro-Gun Anti-gay co-op campaign, as much as it would pain me I would have to switch to SAF or GOA for my contributions. I'm sure a large portion of their membership would as well.

Lots of people think they're Democrat or republican, and vote accordingly, but don't believe in most of the core values of said party.
(i.e Pro-choice pro-gay-rights republicans, Pro-gun small-gov Democrats)

Makes me think 99% of America is actually some form of Libertarian. We just want to be left alone.

...but this isn't really a conversation for THR. (my digression anyways)
 
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I'm a Conservative.

Period.


I am interested in other conservative issues and thus deal with what is bugging the OP.

Yes, I pick and choose the associated material and agree that sometimes it gets a bit much, but I do contribute when I can to not only NRA, but the other orgs.

That's as political as I'll get here and now.

GO NRA!!!!
 
Actually, his/her logic is correct.

"Unless an organization
A) support EVERYONES rights; or
B) they only focus [on] support [for] a single aspect, like [the] NRA [focuses only on guns];
they don't see any of my money or attention."

In other words, they can be a general pro-rights group (e.g Cato) or have a single-issue focus.

Contrast that with a group that is pro one right and anti another right, e.g. pro guns and anti gay rights.
 
Ed Ames said:
Actually, his/her logic is correct.
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His :)
In other words, they can be a general pro-rights group (e.g Cato) or have a single-issue focus. Not pro this and anti that.
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My county feels the same way. We're part of a council of counties that tries (tries) to deal with the traffic and transportation in the Washington DC metro area. The council deals with traffic.

So when the council (which includes DC and some Maryland counties) tries to have an 'official position on gun control' my county threatens to quit saying that the council deals with TRAFFIC. NOT GUN CONTROL.

http://www.leesburgtoday.com/news/l...cle_a7cc9966-90cb-11e2-876e-0019bb2963f4.html

Made me proud :)
 
Jim Land once told me that the NRA "comes out ahead" on every single one of their mailings.

Assuming that to be the case, why would anybody who supports the organization, NOT want them to engage in fundraising activities that have a flawless success record?

If you don't want to even open the mailing, that's fine.
Just remember, they are doing it because it works - not because they are "wasting" the money you (hopefully) donated through some other channel.
 
I got fed up with the "the sky is falling, send me money" routine years ago. I quit the NRA for years because of their tactics - and I have at least 6 belt buckles for signing up new members! Now I'm very careful about who I give my name to just to keep from being hounded to death.

And if I ever find out who gave my name to AARP I'm going to string them up by their thumbs!:cuss:
 
If you request NRA to stop all PR and promo contact with you, they will politely oblige. The next email, phone call, membership renewal, etc are good opportunities to make your request.

If you feel better just getting it off your chest every now and again on an internet forum, that's also an option.

I support the NRA, but do not intend to leave the gate open for their persistent soliciting for more of my time and money.
 
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