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Abused Ruger Old Army

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by aHFo3, Apr 9, 2013.

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  1. aHFo3

    aHFo3 Member

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    I bought an abused ROA today. A previous owner tried to customize the original cylinder with a grinder and a drill. One charge hold has a thread less, oversized hole where the nipple should be, and the charge hole is slightly oversized and out of round. The base pin retention screw is beat up where they tried to drive it out with a punch or screwdriver.

    On the other hand, the action is as it should be, and 5/6ths of the charge holes are perfect.

    What would you all do with it?
     
  2. Acorn Mush

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    If it was me, I'd contact Ruger just on the off chance they would still repair it. You sure have nothing to lose by trying.
     
  3. kituwa

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    Sumitko will prolly see this and give you some good advice. Lots of others here too but i know he knows the ROA's well.There is some place that makes customized cylinders for them i think? It is the best cap and ball so it is well worth fixing it up i think.
     
  4. woodnbow

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    I agree with Acorn Mush

    Try Ruger first. After that I'd start haunting gun shows and gunbroker for other parts, classicballistx.com for a cylinder...

    On a side note, it never fails to amaze me how ham handed and just stupid people can be... :cuss: helluva fate for such a fine arm. :fire:
     
  5. J-Bar

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    Once in a while a cylinder shows up on a gun auction website like Gunbroker. Keep watching. Or you could buy a conversion cylinder for .45 colt from Kirst and another ROA, and have two guns; one gun for cartridges and one for percussion caps.
     
  6. mykeal

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    The cylinder is not repairable; if it were my gun I'd purchase a classicballistx cylinder and put the old one in the parts bin. Ruger will not repair it, but asking costs nothing so give it a try.
     
  7. dprice3844444

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    blue or stainless?
     
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    se fla i love claymores 01/sot
  9. aHFo3

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    Thanks for the great info. It's stainless.
    I called Ruger. It costs $99 for a replacement cylinder and $80 to fit it and ship it back.
    Here are some pics
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  10. BADUNAME30

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    Ruger will indeed repair it. Give them a call, BE PATIENT !!, tell them your situation, they will give you a RO # and in a week er two you'll get it back good as new.
    They just did this for with an OA with no cylinder.
    Mine came back with new cylinder, rebuilt inards and it cost me $0 !!
    ( they told me it was gonna cost me $130.00 )
    They thanked me for bein a customer.
     
  11. aHFo3

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    Any danger in using it as is, as a 5-shooter?
     
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    What the hell? Was that goober auditioning for one of those "reality" TV gun smithing shows? What, exactly, was he attempting to do?
     
  13. AbitNutz

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    Wow, I'm stunned by what was done to that pistol. Fortunately it's stainless so the scratches on the frame can likely be polished out. I suspect that even the retaining pin can be saved.

    The cylinder, that be toast...
     
  14. Patocazador

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    Definitely send it back for REPAIR from Ruger. They will probably send you a new cylinder and only charge you for the repair ... or not charge you at all.
    A new cylinder from ClassicBallistx will run about 2 bills.
     
  15. mykeal

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    Patocazador +!. That's good news about Ruger repairing your revolver. Definitely take them up on it.
     
  16. kituwa

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    Really makes you wonder what the previous owner was doing.Must have been removing a stuck nipple with a electric drill in one hand and a beer in the other,lol.Wonder why he had ground of the writing around the cylinder? Did he grind off anything on the frame too?
     
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    Dang! That looks like something a woman would do after her husband announced he was going to divorce her!

    I'm glad Ruger can still help you out. I understood they were out of parts. I am delighted that I was wrong.

    I still think it's a good idea to buy a second one, though.
     
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    ruger service

    Who did you call to get repairs done on your ROA.I called them last fall to have a broker base pin replaced and they said they no longer had any parts or did any service on old armys.
     
  19. aHFo3

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    I called the number in DPrice's link. I spoke to Wayne or Dwayne. Their system said zero cylinders, but he spoke to a tech who said they had them. I'm sending it tomorrow.

    Would you send the boogered cylinder along with the gun?
    Thank you all for your input!

    I'll update as soon as I hear anything.
     
  20. Patocazador

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    If you don't send the whole gun, they may not repair it since they only repair genuine Ruger items. They don't sell cylinders but they do replace/repair them. How can they repair something you don't send????
    You may not get your original cylinder back since they don't want defective parts 'out there.'
     
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    WOW. Just WOW. however, I think the cylinder could be repaired. Not worth the effort if you can get a new one for under a hundred bucks, but could be done. Widen the hole some more, and thread it for a plug which could be used as an adapter for an original nipple.

    The damage to the outside of the cylinder could be fixed by someone with a lathe who could merely finish up the groove the goober made. Looks like the guy was trying to erase the text stamp ring on the cylinder, and maybe fit the chambers for some other kind of bigger nipple, or maybe a 209 primer ignition system.

    I would definitely keep the original cylinder. You could end up doing something interesting with it like changing the nipples to use something bigger. I don't think its a total loss, but it would take a ton of work and skill to make anything useful out of it. If you send it to Ruger, they will probably just dump it in the trash and not send it back to you.
     
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    Send it to Ruger! Some of the best CS in the industry!
     
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    Have them fit a new cylinder and keep the 5/6. After all most guys only load 5/6 anyway.
     
  24. Acorn Mush

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    aHFo3, I STRONGLY suggest you send that cylinder back to Ruger with your revolver. Sure it is fun to think about what could be done with an extra cylinder and all, but heed well Patocazador's words. Is it really worth the risk to you of Ruger not repairing your revolver just because you wanted to keep the old cylinder for experimentation?

    Wuz it me buddy I'd send it back, cylinder and all. Ruger will do you right.
     
  25. aHFo3

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    It's boxed up, cylinder and all, ready to ship tomorrow.

    I'll update ASAP
     
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