Wow it was an accident. I made a mistake. I take responsibility. Even though I pulled the trigger and it w went off it was pointed in a safe direction. If you were around me I promise I am very safe. I have been handling guns my entire life. I had to be safe it wasn't an option. I have taught countless peeople to shoot and they learn safe handling before given a loaded gun. This is the reason it bothers me so. It reminds me im human.
acidental discharge leads to suprising results from glock 26
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MolleMan
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Well since we're confessing,
I had my first ND last saturday, I recently bought my sister a Sigma 9mm and she came down to the farm to practice with me and I had just got my 1911 back from the custom shop with a extremly light trigger pull so after many many rounds i kneel down and was goin to lock the slide back to unload and when i did i must have touched the trigger and it went off with my hand right at the muzzle, had a bad burn and a good scratch from the front sight sweeping across my hand.
She didn't really pay much attention to me but it really bothered the crap out of me.
I had my first ND last saturday, I recently bought my sister a Sigma 9mm and she came down to the farm to practice with me and I had just got my 1911 back from the custom shop with a extremly light trigger pull so after many many rounds i kneel down and was goin to lock the slide back to unload and when i did i must have touched the trigger and it went off with my hand right at the muzzle, had a bad burn and a good scratch from the front sight sweeping across my hand.
She didn't really pay much attention to me but it really bothered the crap out of me.
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I did the same with a Browning Hi Power. Except I had a loaded mag in the gun, I had taken off the grips to clean the frame beneath and at some point racked the slide and then decided I needed to drop the hammer to finish cleaning it. Well, it went off. I had it angled so the bullet went through a plastic fan then through the plate glass sliding door and lodged in patio roof. Surprisingly for me, it wasn't' that loud and I was extremely fortunate my GF's son or any of his friends were inside. This is after 20+ years of owning, shooting, cleaning and handling firearms. 
No one is trying to beat anyone up...but these incidents are not accidents, they are due to negligence, the terminology is an important part of you learning your lesson just as I did mine and so on to the next fella. ND not AD.
Now...who wants pie?
Now...who wants pie?
I came pretty close to having an ND within days of purchasing my first handgun. The way it almost happened (twice) is that I was dry firing. Then I put a loaded mag in the gun but continued to hold it. Then I forget it was loaded and cycled the action, in preparation to dry fire it. I caught myself due to the sound/feel of the round chambering.
I seem to have developed a pretty effective routine, since then. Nowadays, whenever I load a gun, I immediately either holster it or set it down. I just kind of immediately lose interest in it, because I've learned a loaded gun is no fun to play with (unless I'm standing at the firing line.) And whenever I unholster or otherwise pick up a gun, I seem to retain the good sense to chamber check it, even if I forgot I loaded it. This is what works for me. I haven't had any close calls in the years, since. This is especially important, now that I prefer to load my pistols with one in the chamber.
As for dry firing a gun, I have developed the habit of doing a press check as the last thing before pulling the trigger. I don't like ending things by racking or locking back the slide, because that's the same movement used to chamber a round.
I seem to have developed a pretty effective routine, since then. Nowadays, whenever I load a gun, I immediately either holster it or set it down. I just kind of immediately lose interest in it, because I've learned a loaded gun is no fun to play with (unless I'm standing at the firing line.) And whenever I unholster or otherwise pick up a gun, I seem to retain the good sense to chamber check it, even if I forgot I loaded it. This is what works for me. I haven't had any close calls in the years, since. This is especially important, now that I prefer to load my pistols with one in the chamber.
As for dry firing a gun, I have developed the habit of doing a press check as the last thing before pulling the trigger. I don't like ending things by racking or locking back the slide, because that's the same movement used to chamber a round.
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if you're gonna practice combat drills in the house, remove the magazine and clear the chamber.
Good thing nobody was hurt.
Good thing nobody was hurt.
I strongly disagree using the fireplace.
There are a lot of ricochet possibility there.
Better the floor or Sheetrock wall, and be sure no one is around (risk mostly, but also saves embarrassment while you recover your composure and can be calm about explaining how stupid you were)
And while no NDs I have done some seriously stupid things.
There are a lot of ricochet possibility there.
Better the floor or Sheetrock wall, and be sure no one is around (risk mostly, but also saves embarrassment while you recover your composure and can be calm about explaining how stupid you were)
And while no NDs I have done some seriously stupid things.
camsdaddy:
I very much appreciate you bringing this up and sharing your story. I, too, have been around guns all my life. I've never had an ND - knock on wood. Your story very much reinforces what I intellectually know - but is great to be reminded of: No matter how careful, not matter how sure - never take anything for granted. This topic is one area in life where there is no such thing as too much paranoia.
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I very much appreciate you bringing this up and sharing your story. I, too, have been around guns all my life. I've never had an ND - knock on wood. Your story very much reinforces what I intellectually know - but is great to be reminded of: No matter how careful, not matter how sure - never take anything for granted. This topic is one area in life where there is no such thing as too much paranoia.
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REAPER4206969
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Door frames are one of the safer objects to dry fire at.
This is why there is no such thing as being too careful, and why the old saying of "treat every firearm as if it were loaded" needs to be strictly obeyed.
In Michigan, a father unintentionally shot his 12 year old daughter a week ago while cleaning his handgun. She survived due to prompt and excellent EMS and ER service, but it's still unknown if the father will be charged. Whether he is or isn't, I can't imagine the guilt he must be dealing with right now, and rightfully so (IMstrongO), as he violated so many rules of firearm safety it's not even funny.
When I practice dry firing, I do a total safety check, removing the magazine, locking the slide back and visually inspecting the weapon. I also rack the slide many, many times to ensure no rounds are somehow in the weapon, that have managed to avoid detection.
Then, I only use snap caps, always pointing the weapon in a safe direction, ensuring there are no people in the direction of the barrel.
I don't care if people think this is overkill. I would rather be cautious to the degree of being accused of neurotic than risk discharging any weapon unintentionally, and I don't even want to contemplate injuring anyone or worse.
The one thing about firearms is that any round fired can never be undone. There are no mulligans. No do-overs.
In Michigan, a father unintentionally shot his 12 year old daughter a week ago while cleaning his handgun. She survived due to prompt and excellent EMS and ER service, but it's still unknown if the father will be charged. Whether he is or isn't, I can't imagine the guilt he must be dealing with right now, and rightfully so (IMstrongO), as he violated so many rules of firearm safety it's not even funny.
When I practice dry firing, I do a total safety check, removing the magazine, locking the slide back and visually inspecting the weapon. I also rack the slide many, many times to ensure no rounds are somehow in the weapon, that have managed to avoid detection.
Then, I only use snap caps, always pointing the weapon in a safe direction, ensuring there are no people in the direction of the barrel.
I don't care if people think this is overkill. I would rather be cautious to the degree of being accused of neurotic than risk discharging any weapon unintentionally, and I don't even want to contemplate injuring anyone or worse.
The one thing about firearms is that any round fired can never be undone. There are no mulligans. No do-overs.
1911austin
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Just don't have live ammo anywhere near your Glock while dry firing.
KBintheSLC
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Glad no one was hurt. My neighbor recently had an ND in his home... 9mm 124 JHP went through the floor and ended up in the downstairs neighbors apt lodged in their floor. This is why you always dry practice against a safe backdrop... even though your gun is "empty". Live and learn... you are forgiven.
I had a similar accident 30 yrs. ago while fitting parts to a frankinstien 1911 I was building and I had some dummy rounds that I used for cycling the action.
It turned out, a loaded round got mixed up with the dummies and when cycling the action the gun discharged thru the kitchen floor into the basement and denting the washing machine directly below it.
If this happened 30 minutes earlier, my mom would have been hit while doing laundry.
That taught me to always handle a firearm as loaded and never keep ammo of any kind around a gun while working on it.
The only guns I keep loaded are CCW and a bedside 38 revolver only for emergency.
I even had a 22-250 varmit rifle 700 rem discharge by itself while sitting in a gun safe years ago, from a round that failed to extract.
Never heard it go off, I just noticed a hole in the top of the safe one day.
As you can see things happen, and you can't take any chances with a gun, Follow the NRA safety rules to the letter and they will keep you and your family safe
It turned out, a loaded round got mixed up with the dummies and when cycling the action the gun discharged thru the kitchen floor into the basement and denting the washing machine directly below it.
If this happened 30 minutes earlier, my mom would have been hit while doing laundry.
That taught me to always handle a firearm as loaded and never keep ammo of any kind around a gun while working on it.
The only guns I keep loaded are CCW and a bedside 38 revolver only for emergency.
I even had a 22-250 varmit rifle 700 rem discharge by itself while sitting in a gun safe years ago, from a round that failed to extract.
Never heard it go off, I just noticed a hole in the top of the safe one day.
As you can see things happen, and you can't take any chances with a gun, Follow the NRA safety rules to the letter and they will keep you and your family safe
NavyLCDR
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Get yourself a spare magazine. Remove the spring and the follower. Paint the end red. Use it to dry fire with. One advantage is that without the magazine follower, the slide stop will not be activated. The other advantage is that it is impossible to have a loaded magazine in the gun that way.
This works especially well in guns with a magazine safety.
This works especially well in guns with a magazine safety.
doc540
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What's the loudest sound in the world?
A .380 AMT Backup negligently fired inside a bank.
During business hours
A .380 AMT Backup negligently fired inside a bank.
During business hours
Zerodefect
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I did that once with an old mag. I also sealed it and filled it with molten lead until it weighed the same as a loaded mag. Then glued it in place.
Deaf Smith
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Ok then another idea is to buy a bag of sand and stick it in the corner of the garage. Just do your practicing aiming at that. Might also do your loading of the gun there to!
JohnBiltz
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I've been dry firing a lot lately. I have a magazine with a snap cap for it that is only used for this. The snap cap is also colored burgundy. Any time I put the gun down I check to make sure its still the snap cap in there. Also a snap cap doesn't care if its in a cheap Korean magazine.
I am glad no one was hurt.
When I first began with pistols and rifles...two friends that lured me to the darkside of this evil obsession beat it in to my head to check and re-check. I've done what you did and even checked the damn gun after I cleaned it!
It's a lesson that was learned. Just pull back on the slide or flip the cylinder even if it's an obnoxious amount of times. It's better to be safe than sorry.
When I first began with pistols and rifles...two friends that lured me to the darkside of this evil obsession beat it in to my head to check and re-check. I've done what you did and even checked the damn gun after I cleaned it!
It's a lesson that was learned. Just pull back on the slide or flip the cylinder even if it's an obnoxious amount of times. It's better to be safe than sorry.
QUICK_DRAW_McGRAW
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mine was when i was with my brother and dad shooting. my brother shot my PT1911 and handed it back to me. i racked the slide and nothing came out so i pointed it at the ground infront of me and bang. glad no one was hurt but now i tripple check every gun no matter what.
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