kingpin008
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2Wheels - As I mentioned, if it doesn't have to go any farther, why not report it to a Mod for closure and leave it at that? What's the point of lightening up a thread that needs closed anyway?
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I guess for the same reason I don't call the police every time I see a group of kids loitering, or someone speeding, or someone wearing white after Labor Day.
Since when has lightening up a thread been such a bad thing? Or are you just bothered that someone made a joke while you're trying so hard to be a lawyer to a 16 year old? Are you a lawyer? I didn't think so.
kingpin008
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I'm simply wondering why you'd spend time commenting to a thread that you think should be closed, instead of reporting it to a Mod and leaving it alone.
I'd love to hear your explanation behind that "trying to be a lawyer" bit. I've commented multiple times suggesting that the OP contact an ACTUAL lawyer to settle his problem. Even when I've offered what I thought the solution was, I still suggested contacting an ACTUAL lawyer. So I'd think it's pretty obvious that I'm not one, wouldn't you? :banghead:
Anyway, that's the last thing I'll say on the subject, in the interest of keeping this thread on track. If you think it needs closed, notify a Mod. If you'd like to continue our discussion, feel free to PM me.
CollinLeon
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It seems to me that every time a thread starts getting interesting, the censors (moderators) close the thread and stop discussion. I really hate that...
dirtykid
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i'd agree that was pre-judgemental of LEON,, i had many charges as a juvenile,, starting at 13,,B+E, trespassing,possession of small amount,possession of paraphenelia,allowing open bottle,carrying a loaded handgun,, all before i was 18 except the handgun charge, which i got 3-months on the later side of 18yrs,, when i went to apply for my permit i was almost POSITIVE i would encounter some resistance, but no problems whatsoever i got my permit in the standard time to process, and have had for many years,, point is not everybody who makes mistakes early in life by smoking pot ,or drinking and driving,, etc isint gonna be a bad person ALL his life !!
He's 16 and can't legally purchase any firearm so there's no point in attempting a NICs check.
He's a minor.The only advice we should provide to him is to work with his parents and PO to find out if he is in a pretrial diversion program or was actually convicted of a felony (or "no contested"). He could certainly engage an attorney to find out if he was convicted of anything or not that will affect his ability to own and purchase firearms, but that seems like an expense that isn't needed for a couple of years. Once he's 18 it becomes more relevant to work with an attorney. Using the FBI criminal record system sounds like a good use of the money, but because of his minor status and possible data delays may not net him any information. Still, the cost is less than a trip to the movies with pizza.
He's a minor.The only advice we should provide to him is to work with his parents and PO to find out if he is in a pretrial diversion program or was actually convicted of a felony (or "no contested"). He could certainly engage an attorney to find out if he was convicted of anything or not that will affect his ability to own and purchase firearms, but that seems like an expense that isn't needed for a couple of years. Once he's 18 it becomes more relevant to work with an attorney. Using the FBI criminal record system sounds like a good use of the money, but because of his minor status and possible data delays may not net him any information. Still, the cost is less than a trip to the movies with pizza.
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DenaliPark
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You should know that any conviction for illicit narcotics is considered a predicate disqualification to purchase a firearm....
huntinhound8
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He says it isn't "possession of small amount,possession of paraphenelia"
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DenaliPark said:
Care to post a statute that backs up your theory?
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Originally Posted by kingpin008
why bother posting nonsense on a thread where someone is asking for help?
To lighten things up. No other reason. When someone with a criminal record who isn't even old enough to vote starts asking for legal advice on an internet forum, the elders should be smart enough to stop at: "talk to a lawyer". Or maybe: "talk to your parents". Nothing else needs to be said.
2wheelsgood, your point isn't lost on all of us. Nonsense masquerading as "valuable" is worse nonsense. In some cases, it's probably dangerous.
Internet legal advice for a convicted underage criminal from a host of non-lawyers certainly seems to fall into this category.
And Kingpin008, how can you take this post so seriously? The OP doesn't even know what he was charged with or pled too! He doesn't know what steps he took in the process. He doesn't think he went "all the way" to actual trial...what?!?
2wheelsgood's level of seriousness is exactly what this post deserves. This kid FIRST needs to read his own court papers and understand the legal process he went through. He apparently isn't even clear on what he pled guilty too (or has been hinted, isn't being quite transparent). THEN, he needs to talk to his parents and a lawyer. That's it.
He doesn't need the internet trying to help him avoid the hard and real consequences. Or worse, getting him in more trouble.
"I had three charges...I ended up being charged with one of them as a deal, I believe. I had to go to court 3 times before I was finished...I don't think I went all the way to the actual "trial." I guess it was a plea bargin? It was a court appointed lawyer"
Originally Posted by kingpin008
why bother posting nonsense on a thread where someone is asking for help?
To lighten things up. No other reason. When someone with a criminal record who isn't even old enough to vote starts asking for legal advice on an internet forum, the elders should be smart enough to stop at: "talk to a lawyer". Or maybe: "talk to your parents". Nothing else needs to be said.
2wheelsgood, your point isn't lost on all of us. Nonsense masquerading as "valuable" is worse nonsense. In some cases, it's probably dangerous.
Internet legal advice for a convicted underage criminal from a host of non-lawyers certainly seems to fall into this category.
And Kingpin008, how can you take this post so seriously? The OP doesn't even know what he was charged with or pled too! He doesn't know what steps he took in the process. He doesn't think he went "all the way" to actual trial...what?!?
2wheelsgood's level of seriousness is exactly what this post deserves. This kid FIRST needs to read his own court papers and understand the legal process he went through. He apparently isn't even clear on what he pled guilty too (or has been hinted, isn't being quite transparent). THEN, he needs to talk to his parents and a lawyer. That's it.
He doesn't need the internet trying to help him avoid the hard and real consequences. Or worse, getting him in more trouble.
"I had three charges...I ended up being charged with one of them as a deal, I believe. I had to go to court 3 times before I was finished...I don't think I went all the way to the actual "trial." I guess it was a plea bargin? It was a court appointed lawyer"
How does a straight A student at 16 not know what he was charged with nor what he's serving and under what terms?
The short answer is that an internet forum isn't the place to get legal questions answered when you're in the legal system.
The short answer is that an internet forum isn't the place to get legal questions answered when you're in the legal system.
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