Adjudicated Delinquent

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huntinhound8 said:
My apologies, but was uncalled for...
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That's what you get for not giving a complete description of all the pertinent facts of the incident... If you leave things open and let people fill in the blanks, you have no right to complain if the blanks didn't get filled in correctly...

Leaving things out make it look like you are trying to hide things... People don't tend to hide minor things, they hide major things... His assumptions were not unreasonable considering the way you skirted the issue...

As a father of a teenager though, I really like the fact that you teenagers are so POOR at lying... Makes my job so much easier...
 
Face to face, private transactions.
No 4473 required. Great way to get guns without the gun-shop nonsense.

HOWEVER, if you shouldnt be owning a gun in the first place, dont even try it, unless, you like 10 years min in jail. (FL law)
 
CollinLeon - Respect goes both ways. IMHO, vaherder was making an awful lot of assumptions about HuntinHound based on the posted info, and not treating him very well as a result. To me, the fool comment was a bit rude, but being someone's elder doesn't give you the right pass judgement on someone based on what you assume the story to be. It also means that you should be smart enough to give people the benefit of the doubt.

So if a lecture is in order, it should be given to vaherder as well, IMHO.
 
kingpin008 -- To me at least, it sounded like vaherder just has had enough experience with teenagers to automatically figure that they are lying to him when they leave something out... Perhaps it's not so much that we hate being lied to, but we hate being lied to so POORLY by them... It's like they think that we can't remember what it was like to be teenagers...
 
Collin - I can see where you'd think that, but even if that's the case, it's unnecessary and rude to just jump down the guy's throat like that, especially when it's obvious that he's trying to make things right. Hence my comment about respect going both ways.
 
kingpin008 said:
Collin - I can see where you'd think that, but even if that's the case, it's unnecessary and rude to just jump down the guy's throat like that, especially when it's obvious that he's trying to make things right. Hence my comment about respect going both ways.
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Sounds like you must not deal with teenagers that much... After awhile, you get tired of being lied to so POORLY... It's actually an insult to think that they believe that we are so stupid that we'll believe some of the stories that they tell... Trying to get the full story about something from them is like pulling teeth!
 
Gentlemen, I understand both sides of this, but I would like to return to the original discussion. Now, the 4473 says: 4473 Exception.jpg I have been given court ordered permission to hunt. I have papers. It says: "The person is not prohibited by the law of the jurisdiction where the conviction occured from recieving or possessing firearms." I have permission to possess a firearm when hunting so...
 
As such, if I was you, I would go under the assumption that I could legally purchase a firearm in a FTF transaction. Whether you can at a gun store, I cannot guarantee it... I've known people who were denied they gave their SSN, but were allowed it when they did not give their SSN. There are too many cases of people having similar names, so there are a certain amount of purchase rejections of people who should not be rejected.
 
If you have court papers allowing you access to firearms, it seems to me that you're good to go otherwise as well. However, I would still visit a lawyer and make sure. Many lawyers will provide a consultation for free or a small charge, during which you can get an idea of whether or not you'll actually need to hire them.

If you decide to go that route (which I think would be the smartest way to go) definitely bring this "hunting permission slip" with you, as it may be useful in providing a rebuttal to any denial you may encounter.
 
Or just go buy a firearm and if the NICS check fails, they will give you a transaction number that you can then contact the FBI with for appeal...
 
But if he answers YES to the "have you been convicted" question, he won't get to the NICS - the dealer will halt the sale right there. And if he answers NO, he'll be lying on the form, which is a bad idea.

Unfortunately, I really don't see a way through this that doesn't involve a lawyer.
 
Or just go buy a firearm and if the NICS check fails, they will give you a transaction number that you can then contact the FBI with for appeal...
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I would have already, but I will have to wait another year and a half before I am able.

Can you call the ATF or FBI and get them to run a NCIS check on you over the phone?
 
Just claim you didn't inhale. It's good enough for the president, it should be good enough to get a gun.
 
Just claim you didn't inhale. It's good enough for the president, it should be good enough to get a gun.
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Way to not contribute to the thread.

Huntin - To my knowledge, there is no way for a non-FFL or non-LEO to just call up and have a check run.

Why the resistance to consulting a lawyer? As mentioned earlier, it may not cost you a thing.
 
I am 16, and if I was 18, I would contact one. I may try to contact one later, but I will stick to this thread as of now.
 
kingpin008 said:
Way to not contribute to the thread.
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Contribute? Lighten up, Francis. Asking legal advice on an internet forum is beyond ridiculous. It's not even a forum of lawyers, it's a forum of gun enthusiasts! Threads like these should even be allowed to continue.
 
now Hound!

-1 on the fool remark! :eek:
BUT
+1 on the apology! :)

This is The High Road You will get good advice, info, and respect here no matter your age....if you give it in return. Kudos!

NavyLT give I believe your BEST/SIMPLE option! http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/background-checks

For $18 You could have a lot of worry off your shoulders!
It already appears you have the right to hunt....so hunt!
Worry about buying a firearm later!
I would assume that since you love to Hunt you already have the tools to accomplish that.

this is from that site:
Who May Request a Copy of a Record (or Proof That a Record Does Not Exist)

Only you can request a copy of your own Identification Record.

Individuals typically make this request for personal review, to challenge the information on record, to satisfy a requirement for adopting a child in the U.S. or internationally, or to satisfy a requirement to live, work, or travel in a foreign country (i.e., police certificate, letter of good conduct, criminal history background, etc.).

And then you will have information to move on or move forward on more legal methods of getting a mistake off your record and on with life.

Heck! Im even requesting a copy of my own...for $18...I would like to have it.
Thanks....NavyLT
 
It already appears you have the right to hunt....so hunt!
Worry about buying a firearm later!
I would assume that since you love to Hunt you already have the tools to accomplish that.
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I went squirrel hunting earlier with my bolt action 12 GA...I do have "the tools," but I would like to purchase a higher-end rifle. I have a Remington 770 in 30-06.
 
kingpin008 said:
why bother posting nonsense on a thread where someone is asking for help?
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To lighten things up. No other reason. When someone with a criminal record who isn't even old enough to vote starts asking for legal advice on an internet forum, the elders should be smart enough to stop at: "talk to a lawyer". Or maybe: "talk to your parents". Nothing else needs to be said.
 
Cool!

Send off for that record and I would say in a couple weeks you will know for sure what you need to do next.

And if you need more nonsense?....keep coming back to THR!

At least we will keep you occupied with good things to talk about!

Go hunting and be patient!
 
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