Advice on hunting with pistol

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My hunting handgun is a Ruger Super Blackhawk in.44 Mag.
My favorite way of shooting is just as you stated, back against tree, arms resting on knees.
I shoot the same way from a treestand also. I shot several deer using my reloads and a 240 Grain Speer Hollow point.
 
My hunting rig is a Super Redhawk in 44 magnum, 7.5" bbl, and a 4X Leupold scope. I've killed several deer with this setup at distances from 40 to 100 yards.

I use cast 320gr cast bullets from Penn Bullets over Win 296. I read that the Hornady 240gr HP XTP is an effective round. I know I've had good luck with cast bullets.

The 4X scope is a long eye relief scope. Compared to a rifle scope, the long eye relief scopes take a little "getting used to", but they are effective.

I have two 44 magnum revolvers, a Smith & Wesson 29 with iron sights and the big Ruger. The Super Redhawk has a longer cylinder than the S & W. The big cast rounds are a bit too long to fit in the Smith, and the cylinder will not close. Keep this in mind when you purchase a revolver. As I understand it, both the Redhawk and Super Redhawk have the longer cylinders.

Before the season, I try to practice grip, trigger release etc. with low-power loads (a/k/a cheaper, less recoil) to get myself "tuned up". After that, I'll practice with the heavy loads and zero the scope. Following that, I'll clean the bore, confirm the zero with a few more heavy rounds, and then not touch it any more.

Good luck. Good hunting.
 
I used a 9.5" SuperRedhawk .44 mag one season.
Tree farm with hardwoods old growth on ridges.
Yeah, the Burris scope came off.
Of course then I get a deer to walk out about 60 yards on the Jeep trail.
Whistle (i'm not good at that) and even yell...............nope, he just ambles off.

Stops way out yonder, so I had two sight holds to try. I pick the wrong one and go over. He turns offering a mirror broadside shot of the prev and I nail him with the other hold.

200gr Hornady max'd on WW 296 goes in and out, right where aimed.

He runs off and it takes some time to find him.

Just because a gun shoots really well and gives one the confidence to take a long shot, doesn't mean one should. I won't be popping deer with handguns at 150 yards again unless it's a specialty pistol of different cartridge.

Killing deer and finding deer can be two different things.

I simply am losing patience and eyeballs in old age. Want close shots and more red on the ground.

Superredhawk shot great, even though the trigger not the best and the factory grip sucked. Long and heavy probably had a lot to do with it.

I carried it in my left hand, barrel over crook of elbow. What a boat anchor.
If I got another one I'd have a sling on it.

Definitely a primary rig, not something you tote in addition to a long gun.
I crawled across a lot of frozen stubble one day on some deer in a depression, only to find them to be antlerless.

Was using a TC Hawken Silver Elite.........so didn't want to beat it up. Halfway back along my crawl path, laid my Colt Python and holster. They make for an annoying type of plow when going low.

Handgun hunting, for me...........became either a primary or not at all.
No more dual carry.

BTW, that little 8 pt I shot with the SRH.......probably the worst case of ground shrinkage ever. When he came out I was high on a hill looking down, sun shining on his rack. He wasn't ever big, but looked doable.

Punishment for taking such a long shot I guess LOL.
 
I've shot most of my deer offhand, two handed. Some from my knees, some from a branch or log rest, one of them onehanded.

That's one of the perks of handgun hunting, adaptability.

The closer you are the more adaptable it is. Just practice different holds to know how it will affect things.
 
I have been hauling a wheelgun around on my hip in the woods since back in the early 80's and have had plenty of use with them on woodsy critters.

Practice in field positions is paramount no matter what you take with you. The Primos mono pictured above is a great lightweight addition to have with you as well. I have shot more feral hogs than anything, and most have been in a standing two hand hold with them not standing still. However I have also knelt with my arms rested across my left knee and reached out to just over 100yd on them as well while they were standing broadside, and while they were trotting along in a slow lope.

My choice of all is my 41 in a 7.5" SS Redhawk, but I have also use my GP-100, my 44, 45 Colt and 454. They will all get the job done if you put the bullet where it needs to go. I would suggest a nice fat meplat cast, or a tough jacketed HP. Reason being if your all setup to make the 100yd shot inevitably the deer is going to come out in your lap. The cast will do the same job at either close or far and you can usually not have to deal with a lot of destruction if you hit the shoulder. The HP on the other hand on the closer shot can make a real mess of things.

I would also say that even though you CAN make those 3-4" groups at 100yds to limit yourself to 50 at most. Like mentioned above, sometimes critters aren't nearly as easy to find as they might be to hit, and the closer in the more likely you are to have a good bearing on just where they are standing especially in thicker woods.

I guess you could say that I am a little different when it comes to my 41 than most. I have used the 200gr Remington SJHP over 20.5grs of 296 for nearly 30yrs and it has just always worked, even on the longer shots on feral hogs. I just recently began to use some cast loads in it and am still trying to get on something to see how they do. They shoot great grouping right in with the Rem's out to 75yds in field positions using nothing more than the mono pod or resting across my knee. I just haven't had the chance yet to put one to task on a deer or hog. Hopefully in the next few weekends that will all change.

Good luck and post up your results.
 
Glock 10mm

Glock 20 long slide with underwood ammo 165gr gdhps did the trick nicely. Came within 20 yards.
 

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I put 5 shots into a 3.5 inch circle at 100 yards today with 325 grain bullets in the .460.
I think you're set but you really don't need that much bullet.


This is one time I will disagree with you RC. Folks that make this claim have never shot a .460. gspn's statement backs this up....... I put 5 shots into a 3.5 inch circle at 100 yards today with 325 grain bullets in the .460. . This is my experience with mine also. Sorry, ain't nuttin' wrong with the .41 mag, but ain't the tack driver most .460s are at legitimate deer hunting ranges. Even when taking first time shooters out with my handguns, most of them shoot my .460 better off a rest @ 70 yards than my .357s, .44s and .45s. This tells me most folks can shoot a .460 accurately and the X-Frame platform and the caliber are made for accuracy.
Nonsense. This is assuming that 3.5" at 100yds is unheard of for any other cartridge. It ain't.

If first time shooters are shooting the .460 better off the bench it's because the gun weighs nine friggin' pounds. Sure, it will do a fine job but there's no good reason to use such a massive revolver and cartridge for killing deer at 100yds or less. It's way more of everything than necessary.

This is about my limit for such duties and it's about two pounds lighter than your X-frame but will be more effective on larger game than the .460.
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I have used the XP-100 more that the others for hogs and deer. It can reach out further and is more accurate than the others. Have never needed more than one shot and generally use 140 grain partitions.

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I think you're set but you really don't need that much bullet.

Why not? I've shot deer with everything from my .357 to the .460. At the range I shot the deer with the .357 I probably used "too much bullet". They all ended up dead, all died quickly and humanely, kinda what hunting is all about.


Nonsense. This is assuming that 3.5" at 100yds is unheard of for any other cartridge. It ain't.
Never assumed that and never said it was. The statement of mine that you quote only referred to the inherent accuracy of the X-Frame revolvers and RC's statement that gspn could not shoot it as accurately as his .41.


Sure, it will do a fine job but there's no good reason to use such a massive revolver and cartridge for killing deer at 100yds or less. It's way more of everything than necessary.

Folks could say the same for a 30-06 rifle, probably the most popular deer cartridge in the U.S. Most folks use them and get their deer within 100 yards. Still, the reason they use them is not just for those sub 100 yard shots, but having a firearm along that will perform very well past 100 yards. Folks hunt with just about everything under the sun, sometimes because it's all they can afford, many times it's just what they like. No need for 30-30 TC's either, but folks use 'em.

This is about my limit for such duties and it's about two pounds lighter than your X-frame but will be more effective on larger game than the .460.

The effectiveness part is purely subjective. Like most of your post here. But hunting is all about subjectiveness and personal choices. Some folks pay big bucks to hunt domesticated(so called exotics) animals behind high fences, sitting in a big box next to a feeder. In that scenario, even your Ruger is probably too much gun. Some folks ride around in an ATV till they spot the animal they paid for and get out and shoot it. Some folks buy their own piece of property and hunt it without fencing in the animals and some folks hunt public land where they have to compete with others. In many areas around here, parcels are small and the chance of a wounded deer, even well hit making it to the neighbors fence line is good. Many folks are great neighbors, but deer hunting changes everything. Many times the thinking is, a deer on your side of the fence may be yours, but once he's on my side, he's mine. Folks use more than a minimal caliber to make sure an animal stays on their side of the fence. Much of the public land I hunt is swamp. Even well hit deer head towards deep water, sometimes they make it. I use my .460 not only for those shots past 125 yards, but also to try and make the bloodtrail stop before it hits waist deep water. Something folks hunting high fence ranches don't know about. I also still use the .357s and .44s when I feel they are more appropriate. It's nice to have a choice. Sometimes it's just nice to use something different.

I care less what folks use for hunting deer as long as it's legal, ethical and they are proficient with it. For most folks, the idea of hunting with a handgun sounds like a neat thing to do. Many of these folks are the same ones that only shoot their deer rifle once before every season. They think they can get away with that with their handgun too. We both know it don't work that way. Unlike others here, I don't feel what I use is always the best or the most appropriate for every other hunter. I know, odds are, my scenarios and personal preferences are different than theirs. I don't criticize what others use, don't know why you feel that need, but you do. So be it.
 
I tried shooting sticks. Generally not flexible enough. My favorite free standing support is a monopod. I extend it like a walking stick if by chance I am still hunting on my way in or out of the woods.

I have used the knee approach for support. Take hearing protection.
 
Why not? I've shot deer with everything from my .357 to the .460. At the range I shot the deer with the .357 I probably used "too much bullet". They all ended up dead, all died quickly and humanely, kinda what hunting is all about.
I was referring to using a 325gr .45 on deer. A 260gr will be just as effective yet have a little less recoil.


Never assumed that and never said it was. The statement of mine that you quote only referred to the inherent accuracy of the X-Frame revolvers and RC's statement that gspn could not shoot it as accurately as his .41.
There's nothing more inherently accurate about the X-frames in relation to any other revolver.

It is a relatively safe assumption that most folks will shoot a firearm with less recoil more accurately than one with more. :rolleyes:


Folks could say the same for a 30-06 rifle...
I do say the same thing about the .30-06. Except that this is not an accurate analogy. Using a .460 on deer is about like using a .300Weatherby on deer. Sure, it works, but it's a lot more of everything than necessary.


...even your Ruger is probably too much gun.
It is too much for anything short of mature bull elk but I'm fully aware of this. I don't use a 355gr .480 on deer because I think I need it. Like you said, I use it because I want to but with full disclosure. Same for the .500 I have on the way. Same for the .54cal muzzleloaders I hunt with every year. All I'm here to provide is full disclosure to anyone willing to listen.


Something folks hunting high fence ranches don't know about.
Try not to assume too much based on the picture above. :rolleyes:


I don't criticize what others use, don't know why you feel that need, but you do. So be it.
Grow up, that is not what I'm doing here, never have. I'm trying to have an objective discussion about appropriate hunting handguns. I don't care what YOU use but some folks might come from the local gun shop thinking they need a .460 or .500S&W to kill a 150lb deer. Someone should step up and counter that notion. Fact is, you have chosen the .460 and you can't handle any comments that may deter someone from making the same choice. I never tell anyone NOT to buy a .460. Only clue them in that that much gun and that much cartridge is not required to kill deer. Or even elk.
 
I was referring to using a 325gr .45 on deer. A 260gr will be just as effective yet have a little less recoil.

The bullet weight and construction is important, but I think shooting a bullet/load that you are comfortable with your shooting is the better option rather than just paying attention to weight and recoil. This assumes that you are somewhat limited in your choices of gun and caliber. Most don't have the choices that you do CraigC. But I applaud you for your serious interest in big bore shooting.

I think that some broad generalizations about high fence hunting operations are being made.
 
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