Agree or not

[scrat]

Why is it that people who reload usually seem to know more about shooting than people who do not. I mean yes we do really get into the making of the boolit and how the gun shoots with various types of combinations. However it just seems as though the store bought ammo person usually knows a lot less about shooting and performance wise than people who reload.


agree or not

 

[trueblue1776]

A lot of race car drivers start off in the shop, then get to the pits, then behind the wheel.

If you take the long road you understand more of the way things work.

Plus reloaders are generally more inquisitive than guys who go blast.

 

[Jim Watson]

Agree to some extent, but I wonder about some of the internet recipe searchers. And people who say boolit.

 

[layusn1]

It could be that people that reload are people that are generally more curious about things and more involved in the things they do as well. They may be the kinds of people that really like to get involved in what they do, learn everything they can about it and get as much out of the hobby as they can. Other people that shoot may buy guns for home protection and shoot a box a year just for confidence or they just like to shoot a few rounds every once in a while but don't really want to get as involved. Not all reloaders want to cast their own bullets and it seems to me that there are some people out there that cast their own bullets that know a lot more about reloading than the average reloader. I think it all just boils down to how involved you want to be. What part of it is the hobby for you..the pulling the trigger? the loading the round and then pulling the trigger? the making the bullet then loading the round and then pulling the trigger? Its like computers. You obviously use a computer but do you have the same level of familiarity with computers, networks, infrastructures, security, etc that I do?

 

[jhansman]

Being naturally inquisitive, I went from shooting factory ammo to making my own. I guess this makes me more knowledgeable about my guns, but not necessarily about shooting. All I know is I could never go back to shooting just factory ammo. I liken it to being a bit like photography; once you've been in the darkroom (remember film?), you never send you exposures to a lab again. I find myself thinking a lot about reloading while at the range, and about shooting while at the bench.

 

[def4pos8]

. . ."making of the boolit" ?!?!???

If, when translated to standard English, that means "manufacturing cartridges", yes, I do. If you want to understand the whole process, you learn to make your own. If not, well, you're just half-baked.

I am continuously entertained by folks in Rifle Country ranting about the cost or "inaccuracy" of factory anything in any sort of rifle. (Although I have noticed that the Ruger Mini-14 takes a lot of "hits".)

The complainants never mention experimenting with several Winchester, Federal, Remington, Wolf, etc loads. They never mention the number of handload "recipes" they have attempted. I needed exactly THREE attempts to find a load that stays under my red dot at 100m in a new, Ruger Ranch Rifle. The actual group is just under 2 MOA. --but then I have been loading .223 Remington on and off for twenty-five years now so there aren't many mysteries left for me to ponder.

I believe the young ones are too impatient to figure it out for themselves or ask the advice of Old Farts like me. So it goes!

 

[pdowg881]

I think reloading requires one to become familiar with trajectories, powder characterstics and many things to do with ballistics. I just think it gives them a deeper understanding of firearms. Buying factory ammunition doesn't require as much knowledge as someone who loads their own so although it can't be said that every handloader knows more, they certaintly are required to if they want to make a good load.

 

[taliv]

i imagine that if you asked that question in the general forum, you'd get a little more variety in your answer, although i have no idea what the point in the question was.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

IMO the reason many people who reload do so is because they want to shoot a lot and reloading makes that possible financially. Since they are at the range more than casual shooters they have more of an opportunity to be around real old time shooters. They share their knowledge freely so if you pay attention, you learn. Even though I'm not young I'm fairly new to shooting and have A LOT to learn, so I pay attention....

 

[Ranger 40]

Well you start reloading to save money. Now that never works out because the more you reload the more equipt. you need. It isn't long before you need to know about Head Space, Chamber length. you find that not all .30 or .22s etc. have the same bore size. Then you need to know SD of bullets, at what speed can or you can not drive a certain bullet. You will study twist rates in barrels. The learning never stops for the hand loader. For the guy who buys over the counter it stops with the 50th round in the box, and range junk can.

 

[GP100man]

fellers the word "boolit " comes from the cast boolit forum& refers to bullets that are home cast, give it a visit if your intrests lie with the silver stream!!!
i did & have never cast such consistent & true boolits in my casting hobby!!!!
castboolits.com
i started reloadingto shoot more but over the yrs. have found it theraputic& relaxing , casting also .
ill add that i like the aspect of finding loads that work better than factory is satisfying too!!!

GP100man

 

[teknoid]

Gee, I brew my own beer. Does that make me an expert on beer? I suppose I'm a little more knowledgeable about it, and my taste a little more refined than some.

The same correlation probably applies to reloading.

 

[The Bushmaster]

I believe that those that reload or roll their own do have a better understanding of the mechanics of the cartridge and firearm.

AND no I don't read aribic and don't intend to. I live in America and we speak American English here...

 

[Jim Watson]

fellers the word "boolit " comes from the cast boolit forum

I understand the point of misspelling words to get a unique www site title, but using "boolit" in casual correspondence is just too cutesy-poo for me to take seriously, unless on said board or the cowboy boards.

 

[Geno]

Lordy sakes alive, but there is a whole lot of mean going-on on THR today!

Re: reloaders, I have seen both cases. Some reloaders should not reload, because they are dangerous. It is individual. My uncle used to order custom-made, threaded, stainless steel bases for his .300 Wea. Mag. cartridges. He would cut off the magnum cartridges just above the base, thread the brase then LockTite it onto the custom base. Then, he proceeded to load Max + quantity of compressed Accurate Arms 3100 smokeless powder, topped-off with a "genrous" supply of black powder. He was achieving 3,700+ FPS with 168 Gn Sierra bullets out of his 24:" Wea. Mark V, .300 Wea. Mag.

This load would burn through a plow blade at well over 500 yards, and was 1-inch accurate .3 MOA accurate to 300 yards. But, that is way, way too dangerous for my likes.

Doc2005

 

[Jeeper]

I think that you have a "chicken or the egg" question here. Do we know more because we reload, or do those who shoot competitively always reload. I think that basically all competitive shooters reload so therfore someone who reloads is more likely to shoot competitvely.

 

[layusn1]

I understand the point of misspelling words to get a unique www site title, but using "boolit" in casual correspondence is just too cutesy-poo for me to take seriously, unless on said board or the cowboy boards

But calling bullets pills is ok? I take plenty of pills, Percocet, Methadone, etc.. and none of them or made out of lead or copper...

And you don't feed your firearm a steady diet of anything....

ok, I feel better now...

 

[trueblue1776]

I take plenty of pills, Percocet, Methadone, etc..

Sweet Jesus, please let me know if you are shooting around me.

 

[Jim Watson]

But calling bullets pills is ok?

Not to me.

And you don't feed your firearm a steady diet of anything

Nope.

I don't put the powder over the bullet, either, as you will frequently find reported.

And I wonder how all these people know their guns are more accurate than they are. Have they all had them shot by a superior marksman or put them in a machine rest?

There are a lot of things more fun to nitpick than "clip vs magazine", if you know the subject.

 

[layusn1]

Sweet Jesus, please let me know if you are shooting around me

I'll do that if I ever find myself shooting down in your neck of the woods. Unfortunately the reason I am taking those pills keeps me from shooting much these days. I also don't load much these days either just to be on the safe side. I think it would be like drinking and loading...not a good idea. Remember boys and girls...gun powder and heavy pharmaceuticals don't mix!!!

Ohh...how about..whats your favorite recipe? Is Betty Crocker reloading these days? Maybe Rachel Rae? Its not a recipe.... Although Rachel Rae is welcome over here anytime....

 

[scrat]

fellers the word "boolit " comes from the cast boolit forum& refers to bullets that are home cast, give it a visit if your intrests lie with the silver stream!!!
i did & have never cast such consistent & true boolits in my casting hobby!!!!
castboolits.com
i started reloadingto shoot more but over the yrs. have found it theraputic& relaxing , casting also .
ill add that i like the aspect of finding loads that work better than factory is satisfying too!!!

Thank You only 1 person here got that one.

Great forum too.

also Handloads.com is another good forum.


Ok i still have a lot of reading to do on this. I like this topic.

 

[scrat]

AND no I don't read aribic and don't intend to. I live in America and we speak American English here...
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Thanks Bushmaster you answered what everyone else was afraid to say.

 

[layusn1]

Thank You only 1 person here got that one

I knew where it came from, I just didn't know it had become the proper noun for the rest of the world.

 

[scrat]

Good Answers. What I found out in my own experience of over 30 years of shooting. Shooting for me came in waves. I used to shoot a little when I was a kid. Then when I became of age I started purchasing various firearms. I would go out to various ranges but never got into reloading. Until I really started to refine my shooting. I tried to be the one who could really shoot accurately. When I did that’s when I started to learn a lot more about reloading. Then once I got into it. You really start to learn what your capabilities are. Then you have a whole new outlook on shooting. It’s amazing what you learn and what you can come up with. Today I cast and reload. It is relaxing. I find myself really critiquing my own bullets. After casting I will weight them out and look for defects. All defects go back in the melting pots. Its all about consistency and accuracy. Now same as others I really laugh now days on the people on the rifle forums. They will blame their performance on the factory ammunition or the rifle they use. They do not understand everything about how things correlate. For everyone one person that you can teach to reload I believe you are making a better shooter

 

[layusn1]

I'm only 34 so I don't have that much experience.....I fought off reloading as long as I could but I couldn't afford to shoot anymore. I had to do it if I was going to continue to shoot. My first non rimfire was a Yugo SKS and I ended up on sksboards.com and they talked about casting in their reloading forum a lot. I fought it off as much as I could but I ended up having too much reloading stuff and components around the house that I didn't need anymore so I started trading it for molds so now I'm stuck heading into learning about casting...I just want to know as much as I can about every aspect of what I am doing. The more involved I can be in it the more fun it is. Other than rimfires its not really that much fun shooting factory ammo. It really is relaxing...as long as your not yelling at your press for jamming up on you...lol. I don't know how frustrating casting can be yet so don't ruin it for me.