Aimpoint vs EOTech
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oh god
Go to ar15.com for the gazillion page thread on this. people are SO DAMNED heated on this issue. Everyone who hates aimpoints after they bought one, or hates EOTECHS after they tried it. I'll buy 'em from you! Since they suck, I'll give you ten dollars!
Go to ar15.com for the gazillion page thread on this. people are SO DAMNED heated on this issue. Everyone who hates aimpoints after they bought one, or hates EOTECHS after they tried it. I'll buy 'em from you! Since they suck, I'll give you ten dollars!
Dionysusigma
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Irons! 
SSG Scott
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Hope I'm not to late!
I am currently in the middle east and several troops here have the EOTech. I did some research and finally settled on the Aimpoint CompM3 (that I purchased incidentally to use with my M1A Scout Squad and my M177 Carbine back home). The first and foremost thing I didn't like about the EO is that it sits so low on the rail of the M4. With the light recoil of the M4 in CQB shooting, it is easy and usefull to bring the weapon and sight up to your head, not bend your head down to the weapon...personally It was impossible for me to look through the EO without bending my head down. I also think the EO is way to busy...the circle around the dot just detracts from the target as far as I am concerned. I may be mistaken...but it seems to me the EO was water submersible to 30 Ft (please correct me if I am wrong), as apposed to the Aimpoints 135 Ft. I was recently looking to confirm that, but all the documentation I have read on the internet lately only states that the EO is water submersible...no depth that I could locate...where the Aimpoint clearly points out 135 Ft...not that I plan on diving with a CCO, but it seems that the Aimpoint should stand up to wet weather better then the EO (provide I am completely accurate). Finally, and this is purely tertiary to the performance of the device, is how it looks. The EO looks like something out of Battlefield: 2142. I liken mounting an EO to an M4 to putting asparagus on ice cream. While Ice Cream and Asparagus may look good separately, they just don't look appealing together. True, if the device saves my life, then I certainly won't care..but at this point I can look at my M4 with the Aimpoint and think, "That's Bad A#$!", while when I look at the EOTech I think, "Ugh!".
There is one other thing to consider: When a military Aimpoint is rendered un-serviceable, the device is turned in to the supply NCO or armorer and is destroyed...the army (at least) doesn't have them repaired. A GOOD supply NCO will STRIP the mounts, lens covers, honeycombs (anti-glare devices) and keep them for spare parts...unaccountable...you may be able to acquire some of these parts for use as your own spares or save you having to purchase a mount. Something to think about!
I am currently in the middle east and several troops here have the EOTech. I did some research and finally settled on the Aimpoint CompM3 (that I purchased incidentally to use with my M1A Scout Squad and my M177 Carbine back home). The first and foremost thing I didn't like about the EO is that it sits so low on the rail of the M4. With the light recoil of the M4 in CQB shooting, it is easy and usefull to bring the weapon and sight up to your head, not bend your head down to the weapon...personally It was impossible for me to look through the EO without bending my head down. I also think the EO is way to busy...the circle around the dot just detracts from the target as far as I am concerned. I may be mistaken...but it seems to me the EO was water submersible to 30 Ft (please correct me if I am wrong), as apposed to the Aimpoints 135 Ft. I was recently looking to confirm that, but all the documentation I have read on the internet lately only states that the EO is water submersible...no depth that I could locate...where the Aimpoint clearly points out 135 Ft...not that I plan on diving with a CCO, but it seems that the Aimpoint should stand up to wet weather better then the EO (provide I am completely accurate). Finally, and this is purely tertiary to the performance of the device, is how it looks. The EO looks like something out of Battlefield: 2142. I liken mounting an EO to an M4 to putting asparagus on ice cream. While Ice Cream and Asparagus may look good separately, they just don't look appealing together. True, if the device saves my life, then I certainly won't care..but at this point I can look at my M4 with the Aimpoint and think, "That's Bad A#$!", while when I look at the EOTech I think, "Ugh!".
There is one other thing to consider: When a military Aimpoint is rendered un-serviceable, the device is turned in to the supply NCO or armorer and is destroyed...the army (at least) doesn't have them repaired. A GOOD supply NCO will STRIP the mounts, lens covers, honeycombs (anti-glare devices) and keep them for spare parts...unaccountable...you may be able to acquire some of these parts for use as your own spares or save you having to purchase a mount. Something to think about!
I will weigh in on this as well. First things first, try them both yourself and decide which one YOU like the most, and I do mean try, don't just look. As for myself, I was an Aimpoint fan until I got to actually use a EOtech. I like the FOV and reticle on the EOtech more. Also, the larger HUD means that I can aquire targets from a different range of angles that I have with an Aimpoint. As far as reliability, I have not seen an EOtech fail, and I have seen them wet, knocked around and dropped.
Last thing, but one that is fairly important military wise is that I really like the EOtech better when used in conjunction with nightvision. The wider HUD makes it easier to use.
I would have to say that the only thing I dislike about the EOtech is the illumination controls. In all honesty, I do not know what I would like to see done to improve them, so it is just one of those things.
I cannot comment on the Aimpoint from an operational sense as they are pretty few and far between in the units that I have been with. Almost all of the optics I see are EOtechs or ACOGs.
Last thing, but one that is fairly important military wise is that I really like the EOtech better when used in conjunction with nightvision. The wider HUD makes it easier to use.
I would have to say that the only thing I dislike about the EOtech is the illumination controls. In all honesty, I do not know what I would like to see done to improve them, so it is just one of those things.
I cannot comment on the Aimpoint from an operational sense as they are pretty few and far between in the units that I have been with. Almost all of the optics I see are EOtechs or ACOGs.
MassMark
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Extensively tested both the Eotech and Aimpoint and after careful consideration, went to the superior, (in my book), Trijicon Tripower...
Either will serve you well - both have their strengths and weaknesses. I prefered the Eotech with night vision and liked the quick aquisition of the Aimpoint. Neither hold a candle to the Tripower in my experience, (which also has strengths and weaknesses - just fewer).
Either will serve you well - both have their strengths and weaknesses. I prefered the Eotech with night vision and liked the quick aquisition of the Aimpoint. Neither hold a candle to the Tripower in my experience, (which also has strengths and weaknesses - just fewer).
BADUNAME13
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I like both.
My AK's will have Eotechs
For an M4:
If it was between a Aimpoint Comp 2 and an Eotech I would go Eotech (I don't like 4 mil dots)
If It was between a Aimpoint Coomp 3 (With a 2 mil dot) and an Eotech... I might go either way.
Whatever you do get throw levers...
My AK's will have Eotechs
For an M4:
If it was between a Aimpoint Comp 2 and an Eotech I would go Eotech (I don't like 4 mil dots)
If It was between a Aimpoint Coomp 3 (With a 2 mil dot) and an Eotech... I might go either way.
Whatever you do get throw levers...
MMcfpd
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I'll have a Coke with my Pepsi, please.
I've got an EOTech 512, which I like a lot, but I just got an Aimpoint CompM4, which I tried for the first time today, and it's likely to become my new favorite. The EOTech is good, and has a cost advantage, but with the M4 that advantage is shrinking.
I've got an EOTech 512, which I like a lot, but I just got an Aimpoint CompM4, which I tried for the first time today, and it's likely to become my new favorite. The EOTech is good, and has a cost advantage, but with the M4 that advantage is shrinking.
Zak Smith
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Aimpoint.
Far superior battery life.
Better controls / easier to operate.
Far superior battery life.
Better controls / easier to operate.
koja48
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Just ordered an Eotech, Acog is next, then I need to build another AR . . .
stiletto raggio
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My entire company was issued M68s, and I can tell you that after our expereinces, a good number bought their own optics. The EOTech takes standard batteries, has a clearer, more precise reticle and, most importantly, mounts directly to the receiver of the weapon. If your M68 gets turned in the mount, your zero is screwed, and if it isn't mounted totally straight to begin with, good luck zeroing it.
The EOTech is easier to use with night vision because of the large field of vision and the lense is easier to clean. The nature of the sight makes for far better peripheral vision than wth an M68. Frankly, I think the 4X ACOG is the best thing out there, but I haven't had a chance to zero mine yet, so I still have my EOTech mounted. At 1/3 the price, the EOTech is definitely an excellent CQB optic.
The EOTech is easier to use with night vision because of the large field of vision and the lense is easier to clean. The nature of the sight makes for far better peripheral vision than wth an M68. Frankly, I think the 4X ACOG is the best thing out there, but I haven't had a chance to zero mine yet, so I still have my EOTech mounted. At 1/3 the price, the EOTech is definitely an excellent CQB optic.
CD0311
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EO Tech for the same reasons as the guy above me. But I would much rather have a low power scope like the Leupold 1-3 Power or a US Optics 1-4 or 4power...I dont like the short ER of the ACOG
But still no complaints on my Aimpoint with a pvs14 behind it in Iraq
But still no complaints on my Aimpoint with a pvs14 behind it in Iraq
Zak Smith
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CD0311,
Next time you get a chance, try the TA11 ACOG. It doesn't have the eye relief and eye position problems of the TA31/TA01.
Next time you get a chance, try the TA11 ACOG. It doesn't have the eye relief and eye position problems of the TA31/TA01.
Try both. Use what works best for your use.
I find the EOTechs on our patrol rifles are great for close-in stuff. Larger reticle is easier than a dot to key on.
I like the Aimpoint better for things like holdover. It's what's on my 7.62x51s. I don't personally own any 5.56.
Then there's the recommendation of the makers of the likes of the .50 Beowulf... they recommend EOTechs because the CompMs don't hold up. I haven't found on why that is or what particular models, but that's the word.
FYI.
-josh
I find the EOTechs on our patrol rifles are great for close-in stuff. Larger reticle is easier than a dot to key on.
I like the Aimpoint better for things like holdover. It's what's on my 7.62x51s. I don't personally own any 5.56.
Then there's the recommendation of the makers of the likes of the .50 Beowulf... they recommend EOTechs because the CompMs don't hold up. I haven't found on why that is or what particular models, but that's the word.
FYI.
-josh
Chris Rhines
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I go back and forth - presently have the Aimpoint M3 on my defensive gun for the better battery life, controls, and ruggedness.
I wouldn't feel too out of sorts if someone were to exchange my Aimpoint for an EOTech 553, as long as they didn't mess with the zero.
- Chris
I wouldn't feel too out of sorts if someone were to exchange my Aimpoint for an EOTech 553, as long as they didn't mess with the zero.
- Chris
The new Aimpoint CompM4 (also the new M68 CCO) uses a single AA battery with an 8 year battery life (constant on for all but the 3 highest settings) though I would use Lithium for a long term battery.
The CompM4 also has a 2 MOA dot, and installs directly on the rail with no rings, with two levels of height using a spacer. The military issue one (and what is currently on the civil market) includes a Killflash also.
The CompM4 also has a 2 MOA dot, and installs directly on the rail with no rings, with two levels of height using a spacer. The military issue one (and what is currently on the civil market) includes a Killflash also.
Tomac
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I've owned/used both Aimpoints & Eotechs, gone back and forth a couple of times. Finally went back to the Eotech 512. Why? Faster on target for me than the AP (YMMV) and greater perceived FOV & IMHO that's more important than ease of control manipulation or battery life (besides, w/AA's I can use rechargeables and 1,100hrs of runtime isn't exactly "short"). However, a lot of personal preference is involved and both are good pieces of kit that are combat-proven so pick the one that best suits your needs & budget.
Tomac
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DragonRider
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I own both, for me, inside 25m eotech by a slight edge, from 26-75ish meter, aimpoint, and then back to the eotech beyond 75ish. So in the big picture, it could depend on what distance you look at in the store and with it mounted. Practice transistions, near far, left right, etc and see which sight works for you.
Good luck,
John
Good luck,
John
Bazooka Joe71
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A little OT, but is the Aimpoint CompC 2x 2MOA Red Dot Sight magnified? Does that 2x mean its magnified 2x?
Tomac
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Yes, it's magnified 2x.
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