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One of those, 'crap there goes this morning', mornings.

About a week ago I brought a 1911 mag to work to see if a workmate would be interested in buy it and a few of his brothers (I sold off my .45). Anyway, I left the thing in my backpack and totally forgot about it. TSA just found it. I'm such a dumbass. :banghead:

A little paperwork, a friendly conversation w/ Tucson PD and I'm off. I had to surrender the stupid thing to make my plane. Anyone have a price est. on a GI (ASY-...) 1911 magazine?

I hope the rest of the day goes better..
 
Ya know, it's a magazine. A stamped piece of metal. Is that actually a threat to anyone?
This country has gone crazy.
 
I did the same thing a few years ago. TSA dumped the ammo and gave the mag to a crew member who returned it upon landing.
 
There about 13 dollars at Midwayusa. That's funny because we have flown to and from AZ with out any problems, the one problem we ever had was in IL when they wouldn't let us transport ammo even though it was in a separate luggage.
 
I accidently tried to carry on some shotgun shells that my wife stuff in a pouch pocket I didnt even know existed (from back during duck season). After a 15 minute meet and greet with everyone and their relative wearing a uniform I was let on my way. They did tell me that the number 1 offenders were hunters, and cops.

Remember: TSA = trailerpark staffing agency
 
TSA found a handful of loose rifle rounds a while back... that was fun.


I got to be surrounded by 4 agents and a few security officers while they went through my backpack and gathered all the rounds. They photographed them all one at a time, and as they went through them (6 rounds or so) they asked what each caliber each round was...


I was like... "yeah it's stamped right there on the bottom..." Seems as if none of the officers on the scene had ever personally witnessed a .223, 7.62nato, or a 7.62x39 round in their life.


I was only treated like a criminal by one person, an older female, but everyone else was like "yeah it's no big deal and happens all the time..."


I was released after about 10 minutes. I went and bought a dedicated range bag the day after I got back from my trip.
 
Was it an unloaded magazine?

I'm not sure that's on the prohibited list. I might be looking into that if it were me.
 
This is why I would never use my range bag(s) as a carry-on.

Like TR I'd be interested to know if an empty magazine is really prohibited. You can carry on many things that are far more dangerous than that. Such as your fist. Or a pen.
 
I lost a loaded LCP mag this way a few months ago.

Wife packed my bag and included a pair of shorts I'd worn to the range a day before.

I was allowed to fly, but it wasn't a pleasant experience. Ironically, they didn't feel me up or even send me back through the metal detector.
 
brickeyee said:
ANY gun part has been prohibited for a rather long time.
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Is a removable magazine part of a gun? Wikipedia says it's an "essential part of a gun" but that's Wikipedia. And it's not necessarily essential, many firearms will shoot one round without a magazine :)

The prohibited list says "Parts of Guns and Firearms", not any gun related part. There's a difference. Nitpicky, but a difference nonetheless.

I have flown with leather holsters, scopes, and a sling on my carry on before and TSA saw them and didn't say anything.

I guess I'd argue whether a removable magazine is part of a gun or not and where that legal definition is written down.

Might still lose the argument, but I'd be asking the question myself. Just accepting TSA's requirements because it's more convenient is certainly understandable, but maybe worth pushing back now and then.

TSA often makes things up as they go and expect people to just go along with them. The TSA regulations say "Realistic Replicas of Firearms" are prohibited but I watched TSA take a bright orange water pistol from a little boy at O'Hare. Is that a "realistic replica of a firearm"?

And, I've been told more than once that I absolutely, no way, cannot even dare to think about bringing a handgun in my checked baggage unless I was an LEO. Challenge them if you have the chance, it's good for all of us even if they win the argument.
 
I was busted with a stray .357 cartridge in my bag in Newark a few months ago. My first thought was, "Awwww crap, it had to be NEWARK!". They were polite, professional and didn't get nutty about it. 15-20 mins and I was on my way.
 
I was busted with a stray .357 cartridge in my bag in Newark a few months ago.
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Be thankful you hadn't crossed into Mexico they have draconian gun laws by our standards -- fat lot of good it does the body count there, beyond insuring lots of defenseless victims for the cartels.
 
Well here I am at hot & sticky Ft. Campbell, none the worse for wear. As a frequent flier I enjoy knocking TSA as much as the next guy, but I have to say that everyone involved was courteous and professional - even the guy that felt me up at the end. Although, the lead TSA guy did remind me of the aged San Angeles Ofc. Zachary Lamb from Demolition Man - I didn't ask for an autograph, though I was tempted.

The TPD officer & I BS'd a little bit about Kimbers; since I had to give up the mag anyway, I offered it to him and the other TPD LEO that showed up a little later on - no takers.

They did, indeed, take pics of the mag - I hope they got it's 'good' side - and my driver's license. No fingerprinting or 'probes, thankfully. :D

I still think that everyone should be issued a taser along with a seat cushion that "may act as a flotation device." - I just wouldn't count on the taser's buoyancy all that much ...
 
Don't Get Me Started On The TSA..!!

Recent polls have shown the TSA is the most hated Gov agency we have. It's even worse than the IRS. Anyone with any common sense realizes it's nothing more than a government work fare program. As far as the TSA and security.. :rolleyes:

Single Action Six
 
After flying to Vancouver, BC, last fall for a wedding my wife and I both decided that if we can't drive or walk we aren't going. TSA is pretty much clueless, and the heads of TSA and Homeland Insecurity appear to have a lower IQ than my dog's food dish. Empty!

What is a person going to do with an empty 1911 magazine? Magically make a 1911 and ammunition appear out of the air? If you can do that I'd like to see it, otherwise not so much.
 
Ya know, it's a magazine. A stamped piece of metal. Is that actually a threat to anyone?
This country has gone crazy.
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It is a magazine for a gun, which is strictly prohibited on aircraft. Given the illegality of carrying on a commerical aircraft it makes perfect sense that a gun magazine has the effect stated by the OP. I mean, hell, he even made his flight. If I had a magazine I wouldnt' expect to get through the process so quickly that I made my original flight
 
What is a person going to do with an empty 1911 magazine? Magically make a 1911 and ammunition appear out of the air? If you can do that I'd like to see it, otherwise not so much.
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Shove it up a tsa agents rear and take over the airport, "I've got a loaded agent here, don't make me use it!"
 
Chris in VA: Like I said (in part)

"Given the illegality of carrying on a commerical aircraft it makes perfect sense that a gun magazine has the effect stated by the OP"

I don't know why you felt the need to clip a part of a sentence out of my post in order to quote it out of context when my post was quite clear
 
I did one worse. I had a speaking engagement in Nebraska a couple years back and my wife packed my bag. Only was there for 2 days so I told her just to pack a duffle bag for me. Not until they ran the little wipe to check for explosives did i realize that my wife had used my range bag for a duffle. I got to explain why there were traces of nitrocellulose and black powder on my bag and let them pat me down and go through all my stuff. Took 45 minutes to be able to go on my way. Sadly I had to do the same thing in Omaha two days later. Telling the TSa agent upfront didn't speed anything up though.
 
The LEOs and actual Air Marshals who ride on our flights simply show their credentials to the Gate Agent and board.

The flightcrew is not required to receive a pink (or yellow) copy of the agent's form, which was the case years ago.

Many of the armed people are Postal Inspectors, but other than Air Marshals, we are no longer told what agency they work for, which is interesting.
 
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