Airsoft for Dry fire practice? Where can I get what I need?

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I ordered the Front Sight dry fire practice manual after speaking with an instructor about the advantages of muscle memory and front sight focus gained with practicing with a gun without ammo. Not only is it much cheaper, he said that it can even be better than practice with live ammo. The reason being that you will learn proper trigger pull without the fatigue and adverse reaction to live fire. He also said to look into Airsoft for this purpose. He said they make better quality gas guns with metal parts, mags, etc for realism. I have an XD 45ACP, 4" barrel tactical pistol and a Sig/Sauer P225 9mm.
What are some of your opinions on the above?
Who makes Airsoft in the model pistols that I have that would be good for this purpose?
 
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Great sig line! I've never put a bumper sticker on a car in 40 years of driving - but now I'm thinkin' about having one made.

I am also looking for an airsoft pistol that more closely replicates the real thing, although I don't think I'll have much luck finding an airsoft revolver.
 
airsoft are everywhere.

http://www.airsplat.com/Categories/GP.htm

i have had good service from airsplat. make sure to get the good quality ones, as the low quality ones cannot handle any abuse whatsoever. i used to own the desert eagle gas blow-back...operates very similar to a handgun and hurts like crazy, in fact i still have scars from it... bottom line is, spend the money appropriate (more than $100 or so) and order from a good company and you will have a gun that is good for force on force for a long time.
 
Only problem with an airsoft is you can expect the trigger to be nothing like the real thing. Even if they replicated the linkages and everything, all the springs will necessarily be lighter, as a gas blowback can't kick as hard as a real gun.

Although with a good revolver, you actually might be able to find one with a very similar trigger pull.
 
Thanks. I called a few places. A couple didn't answer the phone, one place said they didn't have what I needed and Trinity Airsoft had great customer service, had what I wanted and got my order.
 
also, i would suggest buying another cheaper one in the same model. for example, if you get a gas blowback P225, get a cheap spring-powered one also for all the dirty work, such as practicing drawing while grappling if you are interested in such things.

another nice innovation for the gas blowback is the propane adapter. the "green gas" bottles you buy to fuel the gun are relatively expensive, and you can buy a $30 nozzle that goes on a propane container and use propane instead. expensive at the get-go, but much cheaper in the long run.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sapien-Arms-Ver...emZ260398152626QQcategoryZ31681QQcmdZViewItem
 
What d'ya know?...Look what I found...a co2 six-shooter!

I talked to a salesaman who told me the revolvers use much less gas than the semis because they don't have to operate the slide - so much more economical.

Not cheap though like the spring-loaded version - $120 compared to $30.

Can anyone tell me whether the spring guns are suitable for garage plinking? How about FoF?

http://www.trinityairsoft.com/p-1171-wg-4-black-revolver-co2-airsoft-gun.aspx
 
The sping versions are okay. For FoF, not the best, you have to manually rack the slide every time. Oh, and that $90 difference? That doesn't only go into the gas system vs spring, i have a $30 spring gun. NEVER try to use that thing for trigger training uses. NEVER. If you are going to get a airsoft pistol, don't get one cheaper than $50 for a spring, and $90 for a gas. Otherwise, you are going to have a horrible trigger and cheap parts.
 
Oh, here is one, suppossed to be based off of the K-Frame, good?:
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gvnwst: Those are beautiful, but after reading the review it sounds like power and accuracy are not so good.

Yossi: Thanks for starting this thread. I've learned more about airsoft in the last hour than I knew was possible.

The salesman I talked to at Trinity was great. What did you buy? How much?
 
gvnwst: Those are beautiful, but after reading the review it sounds like power and accuracy are not so good
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You should be able to find one with more/accuracy. My cheaper gas pistol (i didn't follow my friends theory about prices of guns:D) can hold on a ping pong paddle at 10yd, REALLY rapid fire, (2" or so when i take time to shoot it, there is no recoil to recover from) and it will break your skin when you are shot closer than 3 yards. Be sure to wear goggles! (and totally covering clothes, preferably a jacet of some type)
 
...it will break your skin when you are shot closer than 3 yards. Be sure to wear goggles!
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Definitely goggles. The last time I did FoF was with my best friend and a couple of BB guns 45 years ago. We were a couple of dumb kids with no training or supervision and I shot him in the eye.

He's still my best friend and would like to do some airsoft FoF also.

I DON"T want to give him the opportunity to get even after all these years! ;)
 
and it will break your skin when you are shot closer than 3 yards
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It'll break you skin farther than that; I have an open wound on my arm from Sunday. The shot was probably 5-7 yards he was at one end of an extended cab truck I was at the other.

To me the benefit over dry fire is the feed back. You still have to have sight alignment and trigger control to make hits. I have one precision drill I do at close range with my real pistols I can do the same drill with my Airsofts. I can also work on draw and first shot hits.

I think you still need some dryfire since the triggers will be a little different.
 
Some are more powerful than others. I was just meaning MY particular gun does that, i have never tried shooting someone past that without protection. (the 3yd shot was a accident of a friend...thankfully not on me. I got him to go to a basic pistol NRA safety course, and he is all good now though:D)
 
Gotcha, mine was during a FOF class simulating a mugging in a parking garage. I also had a button shot of my shirt.

For anybody interesting these guys offer good FOF classes:
http://www.krtraining.com/

They have multiple people in the scenarios and each person only knows their role and what they are to do. Some scenarios playout with no shooting and some end up in a free for all.
 
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Airsofts, paintball guns & pellet guns are fun but that's all. They're not suitable or intended to be training devices for guns.

Oh, I can ride a bicycle, let me try your Harley.....
 
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Airsofts, paintball guns & pellet guns are fun but that's all. They're not suitable or intended to be training devices for guns.
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If you are correct I wasted my money:(

But let's, for argument sake, take a look at the logic of your statement.

1. Real guns fire real bullets with deadly power, Airsoft, etc. don't. Chalk one up in your favor.

2. Training involves a multitude of skill sets, such as speed of draw, sight focus, trigger squeeze, etc. that can be practiced with an Airsoft gun replica of your real gun, that don't require live ammo. Such practice can be valuable for developing muscle memory and good habits. Some of the training involves realistic defense situations that could not be practiced with live ammo.
Chalk several in favor of practice with an airsoft.:)

Oh, I can ride a bicycle, let me try your Harley.....
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I think your analogy has a couple of flat tires:scrutiny:
 
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