AK-47 by American Tactical Imports feedback please

[newkahrman]

Hey Everyone. Just wondering if anyone has had any firsthand experience with the American Tactical AK. It is actually called an AT-47. The gun looks great, and has a milled receiver. I couldn't find any reviews, and looks are sometimes deceiving. Any input is appreciated.

 

[mcdonl]

I cannot speak about the gun but I will rave about ATI's customer service.

 

[outlaw420]

The gun is well made. finish on the wood is horrible for my taste, fit is fair. The trigger is horrible, the pull is way to long and the overtravel is long also. I did a trigger job and it is sweet now. if you are capable of doing the trigger yourself it is not hard, If not buy an adjustable trigger for 50 bucks and your done. Magazine fit is a little sloppy, which is ok because you won't have issues with any brand mag fitting. I had to work just about every mag I have for my romanian sar 3. The reciever is milled, but it is a clone of the stamped reciever, not the original russian milled. This is actually a good thing since any parts for the stamped reciever will fit & work in it. The barrel is not chromed lined like ati told me. So be careful that you use non corrosive ammo or clean it well right after shooting it.
Hope this helps
Good luck
Joe

 

[newkahrman]

Very helpful thank you. Do you know if anyone has done a review of this rifle?

 

[outlaw420]

Sorry, I have not been able to find a review, so I took a chance. Happy I did. For what I paid, $500, you can't touch the quality. It shoots well also, forgot to include that, just over an inch at 100 yrd. some ammo is over 2''. eats anything I throw in it also.

Joe

 

[Ithaca37]

It shoots well also, forgot to include that, just over an inch at 100 yrd. some ammo is over 2''.

I am going to have to see pictures.

 

[christhetoolman]

Hey, I just got a AT-47 and got some bad ammo so I only got to shoot it two times, the dealer is going to swap out the ammo next week. Mine is chrome lined with the milled reciever. The dealer told me they were good guns but I don't have much AK experience.

I was glad to see that yours shoots 1 inch groups cause I was wanting to hunt with mine if it will shoot close enough. What kind of ammo does yours prefer?
I was also wondering what type of amm would be best for hunting?

 

[Ithaca37]

I was glad to see that yours shoots 1 inch groups cause I was wanting to hunt with mine if it will shoot close enough. What kind of ammo does yours prefer?
I was also wondering what type of amm would be best for hunting?

I would not believe his tale of 1" groups. A typical 7.62x39 AK will deliver 3-5 inches. There are not high quality match loads available. Wolf, Barnaul, etc. are delivering that kind of accuracy.

Repeatable 5 shot groups are what is required to make that kind of claim. I would settle for seeing repeatable 3 shot groups, but it will not happen because AKs do not deliver that kind of accuracy. This is like message board commandos who claim they are getting 1 MOA from M855 and M193 in their AR15s.

 

[christhetoolman]

I don't know about 855's or 193's but I can cut the same hole using federal bulk box HP from wallmart and that's with one of those cheap TAscos from Walmart also 3x9x40. If you want to be suprised put one of those on your gun. It really holds up. Once you adjust the eye piece for focus , say 100 yards the edges are a little fuzzy ( not bad ) just a little ( its' not a nikon or high dollar scope ) but over all not a bad scope for 39.00.

I could'nt stand it last year during hunting season and had to put something on it so I could see thru bushes ( I was waiting for a Nikon ) so I bought it and did not expect it to hold zero but it is still kicking.

I bought a Swift 4x12x44 A/O about 20 years ago from a gun shop going out of business. The owner said they were good scopes so for 150.00 ( normally 300.00 ) I thought I was getting a good deal ( a 300.00 dollar scope 20 years ago???? I don't know what that would be like now ). So anyway, I just sent it back to Swift for repairs last week ( I hate mailing stuff, like you obviously can tell after waiting 20 years ) so I figured I would put the Swift on the Ar-15 ( Anvil A-15 M4 with heavy barrel ) and transfer the Tasco to the AK. Since the Ak's are not usually all that accurate a little fuzzy won't matter I should still be able to thread it thru the vines and bushes when hunting on the river, oh yeah, if it won't shoot tight and spreads 3 to 5 inches I guess trying to thread it thru the bushes won't work huh?
I do have a Tasco Propoint I could use but I really do need magnification for identifiation and such anyway.

So, what is ya'lls input on this? I will be interested to see what kind of groups I get. Maybe I'll be pleasently suprised.

Also, what would be my best and most accurate hunting ammo to use - mnftr, grain wgt. bullet type, etc.

Thanks in advance.

 

[outlaw420]

I would not believe his tale of 1" groups. A typical 7.62x39 AK will deliver 3-5 inches. There are not high quality match loads available. Wolf, Barnaul, etc. are delivering that kind of accuracy.

Repeatable 5 shot groups are what is required to make that kind of claim. I would settle for seeing repeatable 3 shot groups, but it will not happen because AKs do not deliver that kind of accuracy.





It will shoot consistent 3 shot groups just over an inch from a cold barrel with hornaday vmax, As the barrel heats up it will start throwing flyers 5 shots will go to 3-4 inch. It is not a bench rest gun and I'm not claiming it to be. So I do not need to have repeatable 5 shot groups to make that claim. So, maybe between the milled reciever, trigger work I have done, the shaw barrel & my ability, maybe just maybe it is possible to put 3 shots close to an inch..
Joe

 

[Ithaca37]

It will shoot consistent 3 shot groups just over an inch from a cold barrel with hornaday vmax, As the barrel heats up it will start throwing flyers 5 shots will go to 3-4 inch.

Thanks for proving my point. A 3 shot group is too small a sample size to allow one to claim that it is representative of the weapon's accuracy. If you do not believe this, try shooting 3, 4, or 5 three shot groups on the same target, then see how large the total grouping is. You will see that it will come out to much greater than a single 3 shot group.

 

[christhetoolman]

Outlaw> is this group from a AK47? that you are shooting?

 

[sansone]

I would not believe his tale of 1" groups. A typical 7.62x39 AK will deliver 3-5 inches. There are not high quality match loads available. Wolf, Barnaul, etc. are delivering that kind of accuracy.

Repeatable 5 shot groups are what is required to make that kind of claim. I would settle for seeing repeatable 3 shot groups, but it will not happen because AKs do not deliver that kind of accuracy. This is like message board commandos who claim they are getting 1 MOA from M855 and M193 in their AR15s.

this is what I have seen also. I have sold about 3 dozen saigas and they shoot 3" groups at best according to customer reports. Not a problem though, just don't expect 1" groups. I would reload for one if purchased, I'll bet they will do better in the hands of a patient reloader

 

[christhetoolman]

Okay,
Today I finally got to the range with some good ammo for my American Tactical AT 47 and the Brown Bear FMJ ran flawlessly. I had also gotten a Tapco 5 round poly mag which required altering ( filing the catch lip ) a little to fit and she was good to go after that. I also had a UTG Q/D scope mount that mounts to the side of this milled reciever and that required a little bit of fitting also ( after talking to the retailer, DPM ).
So as far as shooting 1 inch groups, mine will not do that. At best, it might be 2-3 inch groups at 25 yards after sighting in my rifle ( as best I could ). I then went to the 100 yd. side and it was actually shooting tighter groups coke can size standing up ).

I know this is not a scientific way of doing things but, hey! it's an AK. Well, I thought it was weird, at 25 yards it shot something about the size of half a shoe box and at 100 yards I could hit a coke can, go figure.
At 15 yards I shot low about 2 inches and 2-3 inches to the left. after agjusting sights.

I think as long as I don't have to weave the bullet thru some vines and brush and don;t have to shoot over 100 yards, preferably 50, I could use it for hunting, specially hogs.
I think after today, the conclusion I come to is that this thing is just for shooting fun and what it was originally designed for.

So if anybody has some comments or input please comment.

Thanks

 

[dh1633pm]

AT-47 by ATI

Can't say if it shoots straight or not. I can give my opinion on the rifle thus far. I only shot about 60 rounds. The stock is way too short. I replaced it with a Choate Machine Tool Stock which works well. Trigger slap is an issue. The pull is very creepy with a light take off. All my mags fit without a problem. The top cover is a pain to get on or off. What was really funny was my side scope mount and red dot from another rifle was about spot on when I added it to the rifle. In the first sixty I shot with Wolf Ammo, I had no stoppages. The hand guard when removed would not fit my WASR10. It appeared to be a little shorter. Fit and finish is pretty good. The stock like I said was short and what was expected and appears taken from a parts gun. I will post anything further that I discover with the rifle.

 

[dh1633pm]

I know the post is old, but I wanted to update my last entry with new information. I have now owned the AT47, made by Xtreme Machining with the Frankin receiver that everyone who doesn't own one says is a POS, for over two years. Shot a lot of ammo through the thing. It is not any more accurate than my WASR or my AMD65. The receiver cover is a real pain in the butt to put on. The paint on the bolt carrier dissolved with Rem Oil. The good, the Choate stock is excellent. I had the bolt carrier repainted with something better that Rem Oil doesn't dissolve. The trigger slap was painful at best. So I learned how to do an AK trigger job. It now shoots much better. It is the worst POS I have ever owned, nope. Sold the WASR and kept the AT47. Well kept the AMD65 too. The rifle has never had a failure to feed. The weird rear trunion is as tight as the day I got it. I am sure the resale is not the best for this thing due to its non standard receiver, but I like the thing.

 

[musicman10_1]

I have the ATI AT47 too and can add the same info that you posted. The gun is reliable, pretty accurate, everything is still tight and in place, and the top cover is tricky to put on. The trigger smacks my finger and the gun is pretty heavy.

It has accepted all of the magazines that I have bought for it except for US Palm. Not a single failure to feed.

All in all I love it.

 

[dh1633pm]

Trigger Slap

If you want to fix the trigger slap, its pretty easy. The build includes a unmodified trigger. To fix it, you can take apart the trigger group and modify it just a little. Pretty easy and it works. See below link:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_74/139808_Hurts_My_Trigger_Finger_To_Shoot_My_AK.html

 

[musicman10_1]

If you want to fix the trigger slap, its pretty easy. The build includes a unmodified trigger. To fix it, you can take apart the trigger group and modify it just a little. Pretty easy and it works. See below link:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_74/139808_Hurts_My_Trigger_Finger_To_Shoot_My_AK.html

Thanks dh. I'll give it look and try it out.

 

[JustinJ]

Just put an Arsenal trigger in it and you won't have any more slap. The Arsenal triggers are also extremely reliable and durable. Tapco triggers are lighter but are also very unpredictable with a very inconsistent break.

 

[David E]

Thanks for proving my point.

Your "point" was he is/was lying about shooting a 1" group.

You should apologize.

He explained how he's doing it. He also noted that it is not a bench rest gun, yet you demand it perform like one anyway.

BTW, how many shots do you fire when deer hunting? Wouldn't the first 1-3 be the most important?