AK dust cover rear sight setup? Where to find?
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Sam1911
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That might be a TWS topcover set.
http://www.texasweaponsystems.com/category-s/1824.htm
The problem with using a simple drop-in dustcover with sights on it is that AK dust covers are very loose and wiggly and don't hold any repeatable zero. The TWS set-up ties the dust cover into the original rear sight base and also secures it to the rear trunion to keep it steady enough for sighting purposes.
It's a little like the hinged dust cover on an AKS-74U.
http://www.texasweaponsystems.com/category-s/1824.htm
The problem with using a simple drop-in dustcover with sights on it is that AK dust covers are very loose and wiggly and don't hold any repeatable zero. The TWS set-up ties the dust cover into the original rear sight base and also secures it to the rear trunion to keep it steady enough for sighting purposes.
It's a little like the hinged dust cover on an AKS-74U.
Nah, peep sight alignment is just as critical to accuracy as it would be for a scope. You have to center the front post *precisely* in the center of the rear sight to shoot consistently.
If the rear sight is moving around on you, it sort of defeats the purpose.
If the rear sight is moving around on you, it sort of defeats the purpose.
If you're looking specifically for the cover with the rail, then this won't help, but Tech-Sights makes a rear peep sight that mounts on the rear trunnion. I've never owned one, but they often get good reviews.
The Valmets and Galils have very good sights on the dust cover. Its also heavier and tighter, not at all like the general run of AK dust covers.
Their dust covers/sights only work with their front sights. Different sight height. They also have built in tritium night sights front and rear.
http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/573/7970255/v76-32.jpg_thumbnail1.jpg
Their dust covers/sights only work with their front sights. Different sight height. They also have built in tritium night sights front and rear.
http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/573/7970255/v76-32.jpg_thumbnail1.jpg
fatcat4620
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You can't cheap out. TechSights, Kreb's, and TWS are the only ones I'd consider. TechSights will run you $110, TWS is about $180 with the rear, and the Kreb's is $300. There are some super cheap NC Star types; avoid them.
The Kreb's is easily the most solid system, but the TWS and TechSight systems are also reliable sights.
Though I would wonder, what are you doing that these allow that the standard sights don't?
The Kreb's is easily the most solid system, but the TWS and TechSight systems are also reliable sights.
Though I would wonder, what are you doing that these allow that the standard sights don't?
bikemutt
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I tried cheaper alternatives, all a waste of time, money and ammo. Then I bought the one from TWS, problem solved.
Tech-Sights are an excellent alternative, the rear sight replaces the recoil spring assembly on the back end. A replacement topcover is provided with a cutout to accomodate the sight and it is very sturdy.
This results in a rock solid mount in the rear trunnion, some fitting may be required, but the result is worth it and it provides an M-16 type rear sight with windage adjustment. Very good sight picture and quality.
Made for both standard and yugo pattern rifles.
This results in a rock solid mount in the rear trunnion, some fitting may be required, but the result is worth it and it provides an M-16 type rear sight with windage adjustment. Very good sight picture and quality.
Made for both standard and yugo pattern rifles.
Longer sight base = more accurate shot placement at longer ranges. Or at least, less circular error of probability.
I've tried the peep sight route on a Norinco Mak 90 and found that it didn't help my accuracy.
I also tried this route on a different rifle:
And ... still no improvement on accuracy.
Although I could see the target a little better.
Speaking of lipstick on a pig, this is how that WASR-10 above (with the scope), ended up looking after doing a 922(r) compliance run.
That has a Mojo ghost ring sight on it, if I recall, and an X-way adjustable trigger that is set for about all of 12 ounces.
It didn't make it shoot any better, either.
That has a Mojo ghost ring sight on it, if I recall, and an X-way adjustable trigger that is set for about all of 12 ounces.
It didn't make it shoot any better, either.
Oh yeah I much prefer the raw plywood of the AKM over plastic junk.
It did grow appreciably lighter during the conversion. But burning plastic smell after a 75 round drum sucks; I much prefer the smokey aroma of charcoaled plywood adding it's sweet ambiance to the air.
My current Kalashnikov collection; I lugged them all out of the vault after he passed away for a photo shoot, which just happened to coincide with the holidays... "Merry Kalashnikov".
My advice on AK's.... after buying, selling, and trading them for the better part of 20 years... "they are what they are."
Don't try to make too much out of them. They're meant to do a job, they do it very well, but they have their limits.
Or... "If it ain't broke, why spend money to fix it?"
Don't try to make too much out of them. They're meant to do a job, they do it very well, but they have their limits.
Or... "If it ain't broke, why spend money to fix it?"
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That's probably good advice, Trent. If I could find a reasonally priced side rail attachment for my rifle, I suppose I could go that way with it. But yeah, I probably should do too much to it.
As for the wood, I'm sure you know about Ironwood products. USA made, but wood. And yeah, plastic is definitely lighter. Just doesn't look as good. Mine is all plastic.
As for the wood, I'm sure you know about Ironwood products. USA made, but wood. And yeah, plastic is definitely lighter. Just doesn't look as good. Mine is all plastic.
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I'm aware of the technical benefits. It's the practical benefits on an AK that I am unaware of.
I shoot AK's more than anything else. Line up the sights, put the post on the target, and press the trigger... you'll hit your target. It's a fighting rifle, don't overthink things. If you want more speed, low light capability, or distance capability (seeing beneath holdovers), put a red dot. If you want to see your targets better, put a low-powered scope. If you want to put ragged holes in paper, look into a different rifle.
Personally, I think a red dot is about the most practical thing you can put on an AK. Orion, a 30mm PA and a Midwest 30mm mount would run around $150, give or take. A PA Micro on an MI RSB mount would run you $160.
I agree, the AK is what it is, but the Finns and Israelis saw the advantage of a longer sight radius, and the Russians do too in their latest models.
A rail and Dot or scope may help. Irons are cheaper, dead reliable, and work pretty well if you are used to them.
The AK and AR have benefited from better optics and sights far more than either being a better weapon.
They are all 2-3 MOA rifles, the real question is what practical accuracy can YOU shoot to under realistic conditions.
A rail and Dot or scope may help. Irons are cheaper, dead reliable, and work pretty well if you are used to them.
The AK and AR have benefited from better optics and sights far more than either being a better weapon.
They are all 2-3 MOA rifles, the real question is what practical accuracy can YOU shoot to under realistic conditions.
WinThePennant
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I don't trust any of the dust cover sights on any AK.
If you want a longer sight radius, then buy a Zastava with a side mount scope attachment.
If you want a longer sight radius, then buy a Zastava with a side mount scope attachment.
arizona_cards_11
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I've read that the AKARS from Parabellum is quite good also.
http://www.parabellumarmament.com/AKARS-GEN3.html
http://www.parabellumarmament.com/AKARS-GEN3.html
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