AK sights faster than AR sights?

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I suggested to someone once that they could try painting the front AK sight post to help them aquire it quicker.
 
I would say it depends on what your used to. I've experienced this also. After shooting the AR for a while and then shooting the AK, I've realized the AK sights are much different and hard for me to hit targets. That's just because I'm used to the AR sights.
 
35 Whelen confirmed it, aperature sights are faster....

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Because they are optically superior to open sights, aperture sights are more accurate. A good shot should shoot 100 yard groups perhaps 33% smaller with an aperture sight than he or she could with factory open sights. Aperture sights also obscure much less of the target and the surrounding area than open sights, and are faster to acquire. Most aperture sight designs allow accurate, repeatable, windage and elevation adjustments.
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http://www.chuckhawks.com/choosing_sights.htm
 
If you are faster with notch sights than aperture sights, it is only because you are not experienced with or do not know how to properly use aperture sights.

On my AK, I put a set of Tech Sights on it, and now it has the same sight radius as a rifle-length AR and has nice 1 MOA clicks for windage and elevation right at the rear sight, like a combat rifle should. It greatly increased the practical accuracy and effective range I could get out of that rifle, especially when shooting under time pressure. Now it shoots 3 MOA at 400 yards. Not bad for a rifle assembled by trained monkeys from an old Romanian sub-machine gun parts kit. ;)
 
Having a larger field of view with a giant circle rear apeture is LESS accurate than an open sight... It may be FASTER but it's not more accurate...

Having a Tiny Field of view with a tiny rear apeture is MORE accurate than an open sight... It may be SLOWER but it's more accurate....

I stand by the SAME iron sight cannot be both FASTER and MORE ACCURATE and HAVE A BIGGER FIELD OF VIEW at the Same time....
 
SN13, I think you can reach a good middle ground with aperture size, so that it is a good balance of speed and precision. My M1A and my AK's Tech Sights are what I consider to be a good size like this. With the TS, I am both quicker and more precise with my AK. If you haven't done much shooting with aperture sights you wouldn't know what I'm talking about.
 
What was the point of this comment? Did someone claim to be an expert?
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No, nor did I claim you claimed to be an expert. However, you asked opinions and then stated something as fact when the opinions given were (predictably) counter to your point of view.

And, additionally (i.e. not as a rebuttal to anyone):

As I have said twice now, I just don't think either are "naturally" quicker. However, My caveat is... up close. If we are talking about effective fire past, oh... say 100m... then I give the nod to the AR sights. That, of course, is my opinion.
 
I've done a lot of training and practice on AK rifles, so they feel like the most natural thing in the world to me, versus AR rifles, where I don't really like anything about them, other than the fact that I can rapid fire them easily and they're light. Of course, I have hardly ever used AR rifles, so I am not at all accustomed to them. I am sure that if I took a week off to go do some hardcore practice and plinking and training with an AR, I'd probably wonder how I ever loved the AK afterwards.
 
However, you asked opinions and then stated something as fact when the opinions given were (predictably) counter to your point of view.
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I didn't ask for opinions, read my OP, I stated I read what a member here wrote and just don't agree with it.

And it is a proven fact that aperature sights are faster and more accurate than open sights of an AK. As has already been pointed out, the military switched to aperature sights for these very reasons.
 
It doesn't matter, really. My AK snaps right into place when I pull it up. But I do prefer the aperture sight picture.

I'll buy an aperture for the AK and split the difference, or machine one into a beryl-style rail. Or just buy a Texas Weapon system rail. I do like a red dot, when they're set up right.
 
A pervious Commandant of the Marine Corps stated that the new electro/mechanical/optical sights being employed facilitated the most dramatic improvement in combat accuracy witnessed in their career.

The Jungle Warfare School at For Sherman in the Panama Canal Zone during the Viet-Nam era we were instructed for close in rapid return fire to index the weapon in your field of view.

As for references to Vietnam concerning small arms sight employment and effeteness the most effective killer was artillery.
 
I weigh in on the US military sight picture. Even if I get a shot off quicker with the open sight I hit faster with the military sights.
 
I didn't ask for opinions, read my OP, I stated I read what a member here wrote and just don't agree with it.

And it is a proven fact that aperature sights are faster and more accurate than open sights of an AK. As has already been pointed out, the military switched to aperature sights for these very reasons.
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The title of this thread is: "AK sights faster than AR sights?" Notice the question mark at the end. That makes this a question. Since there is no possible way to qualify which of the two is more accurate in a scientific experiment with absolutely no variables other than the two sights, which would be the same for all people, one can answer this question with nothing more than opinions. Hence, you were in fact asking for opinions, whether or not you intended to. I tend to think you did intend to, then got offended when you thought I was being rude or what-have-you.

Secondly, as I have pointed out using simple logic, how can anyone ever prove that one sight is IN FACT quicker/faster than the other? And to what point? 5m? 10m? 1000m? A "proven fact?" Hardly.

I will re-iterate with an edit: an opinion does not a FACT make.
 
Buddy, you're really reaching for straws to try to make your original comments valid. Anyone who read the actual post rather than JUST the thread title would know that it was a rhetorical question. You need to read the actual post rather than just the title. It was a rhetorical question. If you read my actual post you would see that.

AK sights faster than AR sights?
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A member here (Shawn Dodson) recently commented that AK sights are faster than AR sights. I just don't see it.

I have found AR sights to not only be faster but MUCH easier to aim at speed. Really I don't even try to align the front sight with the rear, it happens naturally as I bring the rifle up to my shoulder. The auntique sights on the AK are another matter....

In fact, I can't stand AK sights after using an AR.
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Note how in the actual post I stated that a member here stated that AK sights are faster than AR sights and I said that I just don't see it. I wasn't asking for an opinion in any way shape or form. Really dude, read the WHOLE post before you comment. It helps.

Here is what a rhetorical question is since you don't know.

http://rhetoric.byu.edu/figures/r/rhetorical questions.htm
 
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Buddy, you're really reaching for straws to try to make your original comments valid. Anyone who read the actual post rather than JUST the thread title would know that it was a rhetorical question. You need to read the actual post rather than just the title. It was a rhetorical question. If you read my actual post you would see that.



Note how in the actual post I stated that a member here stated that AK sights are faster than AR sights and I said that I just don't see it. I wasn't asking for an opinion in any way shape or form. Really dude, read the WHOLE post before you comment. It helps.

Here is what a rhetorical question is since you don't know.

http://rhetoric.byu.edu/figures/r/rhetorical questions.htm
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Well, if you didn't want an opinion, don't post it on the internet. A rhetorical question is usually treated the same as an interrogative question here. Next time save the semantics.

Just using geometry, I can see how the AR sight would be better. With the AK, you have two points on a plane to line up in between the eye and the target. With the AR, you have just the front sight. Now you can focus on that and get a crisp front sight picture for accuracy, or focus on the target for faster shooting. I can't see how you can do that with an AK, I haven't owned one in quite a while, but it just seems impossible. You can only focus at one distance, that is why they call it focus btw, mathematically speaking.
 
Open sights allow for you to see more and therefore, they will always be faster so long as the training levels are similar.
 
I didn't ask for opinions, read my OP, I stated I read what a member here wrote and just don't agree with it.
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lol, ya you did.

(i cant find his thread about good&fruity)
 
Personally I've found that my Arsenal Ak47 with Krebs Custom Ghost rear sight is faster than any of the ar15s owned by my buddies. That includes the troy sights. The ghost rear sight is pure win at 400meters...which is unheard of with an ak47

Krebs Custome Gun Ghost Rear Sight for Ak47
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Open sights allow for you to see more and therefore, they will always be faster so long as the training levels are similar.
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I disagree. A rear peep, just a few inches from the eye obscures very little, where a rear leaf, by necessity covers quite a bit.
 
Open sights allow for you to see more and therefore, they will always be faster so long as the training levels are similar.
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Nonsense. This tells me you're shooting with one eye closed which is a no-no. When one uses an aperture sight they shouldn't even be aware of the rear sight. It's just a fuzzy orb that bscures nothing...except of course in the case of extremely small spertures such as those used in competitive shooting. That's why it's fact, not an opinion, that aperture sights are faster.
I'll say it again, shooting with an open or tangent sight requires one to mentally deal with three objects; the rear sight, the front sight, and the target. To shoot accurately eith open sights, the shooter must align the front sight in the notch of the rear sight, then maintain that sight picture while placing the front sight on the target.
With aperture sights, the shooter should not even be aware of the aperture. Correctly utilized, the shooter looks through the the aperture and places the front sight on the target. It's that simple.
In my experience, the only advantage open sights have over aperture sights is that it's much more easy to "hold over" when shooting at targets that are further than the range at which the rifle is sighted in.

And by the way, I don't own an AR15.

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