AKs and Hogs

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MCgunner said:
Well, how about road racing and flat track. I've raced Daytona speed week on a TZ250 Yamaha, a 150+ mph, 250 lb motorcycle. :D

But, I wanted to go on that dog chasing expedition and didn't wanna be helpless before a wild hog. :D I don't chase dogs anymore. My 64 year old hip is getting arthritic and my left knee has been tweaked by the flat tracking in the past and don't have much cartilage left in it, just judging by all the popping when I straighten my leg.
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Oh yeah, well I eat spicy and gas station foods at work...BEFORE A 911 CALL lol
 
See if you can find bullets with an 8M3 projectile. They are hollow points with notches cut on the inside wall of the tip. This Allows them to mushroom and expand. They are also boattail so they carry better velocity. There are vids on YouTube of them being used on hogs and these rounds are devastating
 
Barry the Bear said:
Ive never hunted with k9 assistance. Tell me is the dog trained to get out of the way while make the final blow ? Did it just learn after awhile ? I'd like to try that sometime .
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Most have to be put on the chain and pulled off. Personally I'd rather have to pull the dog off than have it assume that because I'm there and have the hog, they can let go.
 
Went along for the ride on a hog hunt with dogs in Kuai. One and only time. Dogs wore Kevlar vests and high collars. Pigs still did some damage. The kill was with an Arkansas pig sticker, so big it looked like a joke until it came to go time. That is some hairy stuff. Damn straight you want those dogs locked on to the end. There was no picking up rear legs. Guess these chaps had sent their village idiot to Congress.
 
Barry the Bear said:
Ive never hunted with k9 assistance. Tell me is the dog trained to get out of the way while make the final blow ? Did it just learn after awhile ? I'd like to try that sometime .
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No, the dog latches on to the pig's face or neck area and doesn't let go. the knife is stabbed into the side (lungs) and moved back and forth a few times. Usually the dog will let go when the pig dies. If not, you can use break sticks or try pouring water up the dog's nose. We have also cut away the section the dog is still hanging on to and the dog eventually spits it out.
 
RPRNY said:
Went along for the ride on a hog hunt with dogs in Kuai. One and only time. Dogs wore Kevlar vests and high collars. Pigs still did some damage. The kill was with an Arkansas pig sticker, so big it looked like a joke until it came to go time. That is some hairy stuff. Damn straight you want those dogs locked on to the end. There was no picking up rear legs. Guess these chaps had sent their village idiot to Congress.
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Sometimes the dogs take a hit or 2 but they are very resilient. Dog handlers keep a med kit for their dogs- antibiotics, sutures, etc.
 
MCgunner said:
When I went, we used a filet knife and cut the jugular to the left of the trachea. The pigs bled out pretty quick. This guy didn't have any kevlar, but always had his suture kit along for the dogs. It's a blood sport, for sure.
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The reason we used the chest is because it was very exposed and also safer for the dog since they are attached to the head/face/neck, and the pig is vigorously attempting to detach the dog(s). It got REAL tricky and stressful one time when this whole thing went down in waist deep water.
 
Shed said:
I'm getting into hog hunting (I hate the things), and was thinking of using my Century Arms C39v2 AK platform that I currently use for target shooting. I'm mostly a handgun guy so I don't have much in the way of rifles. Will 7.62x39 be adequate? I assume so but I thought I'd ask those with experience.

Thanks!
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Yes, I think its much better than a 5.56 or on par with a 308 IMO... I use a 300 Win mag because it will go right through their thick bone.

Pro tip: use hornady SST rounds and dont shoot them dead center of their head... you can thank me later.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1...n-762x39mm-123-grain-sst-steel-case-box-of-50
 
7.62x39 is fine on hogs, especially that it'll usually be used at 100 yards or less, but it's no .308. It's near .30-30, which isn't shabby. The 154 Wolf I mentioned even has the bullet weight to do the job. 154 grains is as heavy as I've seen a 7.62x39 load. 170 is common in .30-30, so there is a bit of advantage even in the old .30-30, let alone a .308. I get almost 2800 fps out of my .308's 20" barrel. Best I can get out of the 20" 7.62x39 same bullet weight is just under 2200 fps. That's 600 fps, that's a lot of difference. In energy, we're talking 7.62x39 at around 1600 ft lbs at best vs the .308 at around 2600 ft lbs.

I think of my SKS as a semi auto .30-30. I've taken a couple of hogs and a couple of deer with it quite successfully. :D
 
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MCgunner said:
7.62x39 is fine on hogs, especially that it'll usually be used at 100 yards or less, but it's no .308. It's near .30-30, which isn't shabby. The 154 Wolf I mentioned even has the bullet weight to do the job. 154 grains is as heavy as I've seen a 7.62x39 load. 170 is common in .30-30, so there is a bit of advantage even in the old .30-30, let alone a .308. I get almost 2800 fps out of my .308's 20" barrel. Best I can get out of the 20" 7.62x39 same bullet weight is just under 2200 fps. That's 600 fps, that's a lot of difference. In energy, we're talking 7.62x39 at around 1600 ft lbs at best vs the .308 at around 2600 ft lbs.

I think of my SKS as a semi auto .30-30. I've taken a couple of hogs and a couple of deer with it quite successfully. :D
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MCgunner causing trouble again. What are we going to do with you?
As I said I've never hunted pigs but I think my Rem 742 30-06 semi auto would be hard to beat. It shoots a real cartridge not some wimpy pistol thing and all it does is work like a well oiled machine and produce 1 inch groups at 100 yards with hunting bullets. What more can I ask?
 
Me, trouble? I don't cause trouble, it just seems to follow me. :uhoh:

Nuttin' wrong with the naught six or the .308 on any game around Texas except maybe Nilgai and, truth be told, I knew a guy that outlawed 'em off the Kenedy ranch with a 6mm Remington....until he got caught...:rofl: It's just that guides will frown on anything less than .300 Win Mag on Nilgai I'm told. But, heck, I'm no outlaw and I ain't rich enough for a Nilgai hunt.
 
Well I don't know what a Nalgai is but I think my 30-06 will handle it. Now all I need is a invite to hunt in Texas. Hint hint;)
 
It's not the cartridge used in an AK that's the issue. Shot placement matters with a .50 BMG. It's the crappy sights, trigger and mediocre accuracy.
A V-Max is a varmint bullet. 100% unsuitable for any game bigger than a coyote. Made to expand rapidly upon impact with little penetration.
Knew a guy years ago who was going to PA to hunt pig with a handgun. Guy had a .41 Mag, bought some 210 grain HP's intending hunt with 'em until he was told he could not. Was told solids only for Porky.
 
Jim, you're welcome to come hunt, but I'm not sure why you'd want to considering where YOU are. :D About the only really different and great hunting we have is goose and ducks. This is a goose hunting mecca around here and it's not expensive. We have hogs, they're in here and out and sitting out in the box blind all night with some sort of night vision or a green light is the main way to get 'em except for trapping. Right now, the hogs have moved elsewhere, but they could be back any time, really no rhyme or reason to their movements. We have one decent sized one coming around at the moment about once a week. A month ago, we had herds of the danged things in here every night. Go figure.

The best way to keep an eye on the things is the game camera, tells me when they're here and showing up.
 
MCgunner said:
Well, I know they grow 'em tough up there. One of my favorite shows is "Life Below Zero" and the temps they talk about would KILL me. :D I image Sue could whoop my butt. :rofl:
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To be honest I hunt August- early September. Temps in the 60's are average.
When it hits below zero I sit at home in front of the stove and watch Africa hunting vidios:D
 
They are a fine round for moderate distances.
Keep and eye on ammo though becase the cheap stuff can go both ways, some work great and some suck.
If you reload the sky is the limit. the x39 case will put 2600fps on a 110gr TTSX that while not the ideal sectional
density will behave well due to its stout nature. These bullets want speed and that is why reloading increases
their potential including less time to target that is nicer if pigs are running. I would not use a 110gr solid unless it
was propelled at 2600fps and above. This also mitigates a bit the problem with the light for caliber slow moving
cartridges.
Or if you want to go the other way you have 150gr-154gr ammo and can reload too with a 125gr-150gr solid or bonded.
In this case it means more momentum but also a more pronounced trajectory and always keep an eye on impact
speeds for optimal use.
I am not a great fan of the Z/V-max or Nosler BT bullets for this as I prefer something a bit more stout for the hogs that
can be very hard specially large ones. Something bonded solid or even an interlock in 150gr will work better.
Some say bulk fmjs from the 308, 303 and others work great. I don't see why not but one will heve to research how they behave as some bimetal like russian stuff is too hard for hunting. I never use those for game but with some research and testing I don't see why not if one finds something with a bit more grain that has good fragmentation or tumbling.
 
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