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i feel as if i shouldnt be alive right now.....this morning i was riding with my brother and i didnt have my ccw on me the one time i needed it we stopped at a red light and my brother hadnt locked the doors and had the windows down and a man came up and asked for a ride the man wouldnt go so my brother budged and let him in i knew it wasnt a good idEA the man joked like he was gonna kill me then he said he was kidding we kept driving and if i wouldve had my .38 he wouldnt ever wanna ride with anyone else we took him to the place he wanted to go and it was an old trailor park he climbed into a window on the trailor as we were pullin out,also he was most likely high by his actions if he wouldve had a gun on him and i wouldve had a gun but he drew his first how could i have stopped him
 
WOW...that's one long sentence. Punctuation doesn't cost any extra--go ahead and use all you need.

Rule number 1: If you don't know them, they don't get in your car. Ever. EVER.
Your brother's foolishness could have gotten you killed, even if you were carrying. If he had a gun, he has the drop on you from behind and had you attempted to draw (assuming you're right handed) you now have to pull the gun out and either turn 180 degrees in your seat or you have to go across your body and over your left shoulder and engage him backwards, while all he has to do is pull the trigger at contact ranges. You lose. Learn from this mistake and don't do this again.
 
No offense, but your brother is an idiot! :banghead::banghead::banghead:

You better explain to him to NEVER EVER do that again!!! EVER!!! You don't give in to strangers like that!!!

Oh yea, and take your gun with you next time.
 
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we took him to the place he wanted to go and it was an old trailor park he climbed into a window on the trailor as we were pullin out
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Are you quite certain you didn't inadvertently aid in a burglary or other worse crime?
 
And try not to leave your CCW at home. If you don't have any real reason not to bring it with you, discomfort doesn't count unless you are wearing a speedo, then don't leave it at home. I have read quite a few times that if you are going to carry you need to carry all the time, or else you might as well never carry, and I agree with that statement 100%.
 
scoutsout2645 >>>...WOW...that's one long sentence. Punctuation doesn't cost any extra--go ahead and use all you need. ... <<<

LOL! I had to catch my breath!!:)

Seriously, that was an extreme error in judgment on your brother's part. Hopefully he won't ever do anything like that again.
 
Well you knew your brother made a mistake. There is nothing you can do about that and you can not take your actions back. So lets move on from that.

You asked if there is anything you could do if he did have a gun to stop him. In this situation, I think you are screwed even if you had your CCW. I mean if he is in the back seat: A) you cant see him B) you cant fire at him without turning yourself arround C) He can fire at you easily D)You have to get your CCW out without him noticing and probably E F G that I cant think of right now.

If he did have a gun there are only two options in my point of view. The first is to do what he says and await an opportunity or opening to draw your weapon and fire securely. The other option is to not listen to him. In this scenario you either tell him to take the car and leave but you and your brother are getting out. Or you and your brother open the door and jump out at the same time.

In any event, you are at a huge disadvantage. Add to the fact that he was high on something can even be more dangerous since it impairs his logic and thinking in unknown ways.

Glad you and your brother are ok though. The primary goal is for you and your brother to get out of the situation unharmed. In the situation described, your brain will do much more good than any CCW.
 
hmmm yes

well my brother can be stupid sometimes but he agreed never to it again :banghead:.....the guy asked were i lived and i pointed in the opposite direction of my home because he was probably gonna try and break in when we werent home:cuss: but were ok and next time he'll have to suck it up and walk:neener:
 
i feel as if i shouldnt be alive right now.....this morning i was riding with my brother and i didnt have my ccw on me the one time i needed it we stopped at a red light and my brother hadnt locked the doors and had the windows down and a man came up and asked for a ride the man wouldnt go so my brother budged and let him in i knew it wasnt a good idEA the man joked like he was gonna kill me then he said he was kidding we kept driving and if i wouldve had my .38 he wouldnt ever wanna ride with anyone else we took him to the place he wanted to go and it was an old trailor park he climbed into a window on the trailor as we were pullin out,also he was most likely high by his actions if he wouldve had a gun on him and i wouldve had a gun but he drew his first how could i have stopped him
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Please tell me you're not an english teacher in a public school.
 
Sure is nice when we learn our lessons the cheap way in stead of by getting our heads blown off. Now take your brother out and beat him with a 2X4.
 
I'll reiterate what everyone else has said... Don't do that again.. Tell your brother to never do that again... I've had this same thing happen to me (minus actually giving the person a ride) several times and I hate to say, someone even asking me for a ride in a bad neighborhood at a gas station scares the hell outta me..
I also don't use correct punctuation half the time or very much at all.. but a period here and there.. maybe a comma would help immensely...
 
.380awsome,

Your story reminds me of a situation I had years ago. I had forgotten about it but your example will help me to remember it from now on. I was much younger and more innocent. I was driving along through my middle-class neighborhood at night probably coming home from someplace. This young black lady who was walking by the side of the road looked very upset and she flagged me down. She was saying something about having been raped as I recall. At first I didn't open the door or roll down the window. I told her that I would go get help for her but she said no, she just wanted a ride home. I didn't think it was a good idea but she kept pleading. So, as a naive young do-gooder I gave her a ride. I followed her directions to a neighboring town where she had me drop her off at the bus station in the center of town. I thought that was strange at the time and didn't connect the dots until later. She was a working girl who wanted a ride back to pick up her next customer. What I did was stupid on many levels. Note to self...don't be stupid. Glad you and your brother are ok, don't be stupid.
 
That story is so bad in so many ways. The only thing that is right about it is you and your brother weren't harmed. You can only thank God for that because you did nothing to help it.
 
Your brother ....

Slap both your parents and don't EVER let him ride with you again when unarmed.

If he is riding with you in the future and tries the same thing again, shoot -him-.
 
The only thing I can think to add to this, is that since history tends to repeat itself, should it ever happen again, think about trying this:

YOU get out, let him into the front seat, and you take up a position directly behind him. That way (since you've "learned" to CCW at all times, right?), you can be ready to defend both yourself and your boneheaded brother.

You will have the drop on him, plus, you'll realize exactly how helpless the two of you were.

Sam
 
the man joked like he was gonna kill me then he said he was kidding
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:eek:

Now that is certainly discomforting!

Then again, he could have noticed how uncomfortable you were by his presence and decided to poke fun at you to relieve tension, some people make idiotic jokes like that... or maybe he wanted to teach you a friendly lesson on how stupid and dangerous it is to let strangers off the street into your car.

if he wouldve had a gun on him and i wouldve had a gun but he drew his first how could i have stopped him
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In my view, having had a gun on you wouldn't have made a difference. The fight was over the moment he climbed in the back seat. Letting him into the car was the last event you and your brother had control over. After that, he OWNED you both. Well, I guess you could make him spend all his bullets on your body so that your brother would have a fighting chance, but I can't think of any way to safely disable a violent, armed backseat hitchhiker.
 
There seems to be a lot of "Tsk Tsk Tsk" going on here. But not to many people addressing what .380Awsome is asking.

What else could he have done to make the situation better?

Yes it was a bad bad situation and there isnt many options. But sometimes bad situations do come up. For instance, what if your kid didnt lock the door and someone jumped in etc.

What do you do now?
 
haha thanks vicdotcom i like you u've answered some good questions and pointed out things in several other of my threads to
 
But sometimes bad situations do come up. For instance, what if your kid didnt lock the door and someone jumped in etc.
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As soon as someone goes for the door handle nail the gas. Doesn't matter if they are halfway in your car or not. Things will only get worse once they are in the car with you and your family.
 
As soon as someone goes for the door handle nail the gas. Doesn't matter if they are halfway in your car or not. Things will only get worse once they are in the car with you and your family.
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Would be a good solution, and probably what I would do. But usually there is traffic and and cars blocking your way.
 
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