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Am I being paranoid?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Alan Fud, Oct 1, 2003.

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  1. Alan Fud

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    We just recently moved to the hills of PA. The house is in the middle of nowhere where our nearest neighbor is more than a football field away and we are the final house on the street which just sort of runs into the forest for a few hundred feet and ends there. So there really isn't any reason for cars to come down this way unless they are coming to see us.

    About an hour and a half ago as we were getting the little one ready for bed, our doorbell rang. I found this rather strange especially since there are no street lights outside and we didn't have our outdoor lights on either. So, somebody was standing out there in the pitch darkness.

    I had a S&W640 J-frame .357mag snubbie in from from pocket loaded with .38special +P ammo, so I turned on the porch lights to see a guy standing there. I went ahead to open the door and asked him what he wanted. He said that he had lost his way to the highway and wanted to know if he could come in.

    I didn't see a reason to invite him in and just gave him directs on how to get back on the main road. As I locked the door and shut off the outside lights, I mentioned to my wife that it was sort of odd for him to be lost in our neighborhood since we are pretty far off the beaten path.

    About 15-20 minutes later, the doorbell rang again. I once again turned on the lights to now find TWO individuals standing out there. The original guy and now a second individual. I opened the door and they asked if they could come in to use the phone because the steering wheel in their car wasn't working (as they pointed to their car parked in front of our house) and they wanted to call for help.

    I told them that I would make the call for them and asked them what the number was. They began looking through their pockets looking for the number and saying that they weren't sure. At which point, I told them that if they weren't sure what the number was, then there was definitely no reason for them to come in. I offered to call triple-A for them but they declined and walked away.

    At this point I started to get a bit paranoid and a little bit worried because things just didn't feel right so I grabbed my Para-Ordnance P13.45LDA and strapped it on my waist and placed a spare pre-ban 13-round mag in my pocket.

    About half an hour later, the doorbell rings for a third time and this time there are three of them out there. I once again open the door and they once again ask to use the phone because the steering wheel on their car isn't working. As they are speaking, I notice that the car is now parked on the other side of the street facing the other way.

    If the steering wheel wasn't working, how did they turn the car around and WHY did they turn the car around. Again, things are not adding up for me in my head.

    This time they rattle off a telephone number. I call to my wife to grab the cordless phone and dial the number. The Mrs dials the number but the person who picks up the phone has no clue to what we're talking about.

    "Juan's car broke down and he needs you to come pick him up" "I don't know anyone named Juan."

    "Jose's car broke down and he needs you to come pick him up" "I don't know anyone named Jose."

    "Hector's car broke down and he needs you to come pick him up" "I don't know anyone named Hector."

    I again offer to call triple-A for them but they say "no" and walk away. Maybe I'm being paranoid but things just didn't feel right. The wife didn't think so either and grabbed her Browning BDA380 filled with 14 rounds of .380ACP (she's recoil sensative but the BDA380 kicks like a .22 because it's a fairly large gun for the caliber and she can hit the X-ring with it at 25-yards ... I would rather have her hit her target with a .380ACP than miss it with a more powerful caliber).

    It's now been close to an hour with no activity but the car still appears to be parked outside but I can't be certain if anyone is inside.

    Am I being paranoid? How would you handle a situation like this?
     
  2. Daedalus

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    You are not being paranoid. Call LEOs and explain the situation and tell them that your wife and child are frightened and you would like it an awful lot if they could send an officer over.
     
  3. son of a gun

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    I would have called the Cops after the second trip to the door, the cops are supose to respond motorist's in trouble.
     
  4. repsychler

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    Yup. I'd have called the cops after knock number two. Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :p
     
  5. Weimadog

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    Given the circumstances, I would have to go out on a limb and say.... not paranoid. Those individuals are not acting in a normal manner.

    If you have any sort of imagination, about sleeping tonight.

    Stay safe, and don't open the door to them again.

    Weimadog
     
  6. Mike Irwin

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    You mind telling us why you haven't bothered to call the police as just a checksafe?

    If there are now two, and then three, where did 2 and 3 come from? Did 1 drive off to pick them up, drive back, and then decide that the steering wheel isn't working?

    Were they trying your neighbors?

    You've got more than every reason to be suspicious to the point where you should call in the local constabulary.
     
  7. BHPshooter

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    No, you're not paranoid, you're using your brain. Paranoia is a completely unfounded fear of something. Having someone lie to you to get into your house is definitely not paranoia. I think on the second attempt I would've displayed my firearm and told them that you weren't having any of it. Legal or not, I don't know; but you've just drawn a line in the sand. Anyone dumb enough to cross that line needs to be perforated. Then call the cops.

    Hope you're okay.

    Wes
     
  8. Daedalus

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    I sont want to frighten you but I am really genuinely concerned because "Can I come in to use your phone" is a really commonly used ploy. Call the cops before they sever the phone lines as the Dartmouth murderers did
     
  9. son of a gun

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    I have never heard of a steering wheel not working:neener: unless it's a stolen hot wired car with steering wheel lock problems.
     
  10. winstonsmith

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    There is something to be said for being independant and doing something yourself. There is also something to be said for letting the system work.

    I urge you strongly to call the police, and barricade yourself in.
     
  11. son of a gun

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    I hope they haven't cut the phoneline by now!
     
  12. J.J.

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    1. Have your wife call the cops while you try and read the license plate if all possible... give that number to your wife to tell the cops, it could be a hot car...

    2. Hope everything is nice and locked. Also I hope that they aren't trying your neighbor’s right about now. With the same ploy they tried with you.

    Maybe look around trying to figure out where the shady people are... but for SURE call the cops...
    (from the saftey of your house.. while checking to make sure the rest of the place is ok, this is after the call to the cops)
     
  13. .45FMJoe

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    I say you are half and half using your brain.

    The GOOD half is that you are thinking this is a bad scenario.

    The BAD half is:

    1) You haven't called the Police yet. I would have called immediately after knock #2.
    2) You actually OPENED the door.

    Remember my friend, a gun is an equalizer, but cannot ALWAYS save you. That extra steel does not make you invincible, you must think safely. Don't open the door, exposing yourself to a rush attack.

    If it were me, and I opened the door the second time, it would have been with my Bushmaster M4 slung on my shoulder, round chambered, safety on, thumb on safety switch, finger outside triggergaurd. I would explain to them that given the circumstances, I was just be cautious. Let them think I'm a weirdo.

    I'm sorry, but your story does not sound good at all. You REALLY should call the Police immediately before something happens. If they want to try something, they are "feeling" you out, and getting an idea of what their opposition is.
     
  14. Chupacabra

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    ACK! :what:

    Dude! Call the cops!

    :eek:
     
  15. synoptic

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    Wow, I don't have any advice that hasn't already been given, except that you may want to go ahead and get their plate number and call the cops if the car is still parked outside. Sounds like you live in a house just perfect for a robbery. I'd have an officer sent out, these guys may not be so kind as to knock next time, or instead may go for one of your neighbors instead.
    Hope everything comes out ok, good luck
     
  16. C.R.Sam

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    Call cops.
    Cover back door too with wife.
    Spray lawn in morning....
    You seem to be breeding aliens.

    Sam
     
  17. Erik

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    Another "you are not being paranoid and should have called the cops after the second approach" response.
     
  18. .45FMJoe

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    AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, STAY IN THE HOUSE.

    Do NOT grab your rifle/shotgun/.50 DE/whatever and try to "seal your perimeter."

    Do you have an alarm system in the house? Arm the perimeter sensors immediately!
     
  19. Tamara

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    Where's that bear when you need him? :confused:

    ;) :D
     
  20. 4v50 Gary

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    Steering wheels do fail when there's a steering wheel lock and you don't have the key. Home invaders who couldn't get in by guile and couldn't use force of number to intimidate. You did well. Call the cops next time and have a shotgun at hand. Never mind this "handgun" stuff. Remember, in a gunfight, bring always bigger gun.
     
  21. J.J.

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    ahh heck Son of a Gun beat me to the hot car idea
     
  22. sm

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    You have been cased and evaluated. Lock and load, get the cell phone handy, and call the law. Do you know the nearest neighbor...well enough to call and advise? NEVER open that door again, never turn on a light, this tells them where you are located.

    Talk through doors, make an excuse ( not dressed, contagious pink eye, sick...whatever). In another life I learned people check through public records, word of mouth whom lives in remote areas...etc. I have seen people watch me as I left, to see whom I was, my hours, my routine. I even had voice recordings to give impressions someone else or multiple persons around...not TV or radio. Automatic timers at different times to throw people off. Motion detectors for outside lighting is good--may help with critters you have posted on before.

    Paranoid No.
    Orange getting red yes.

    I came home once , unlocked my door to be greeted by an armed BG. I had taken the best precautions I could...like safes precautions only slow down an honest guy, if they want it bad enough... I have CCW for a long time, I did before my incident, even before CCW were issued ( needed). I was that day, have continued since. Much truth in action is quicker than reaction...I'm still around.

    BTDT

    Hope this gets settled peacefully for you and yours.
     
  23. fourdeuce82d

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    "once ***again*** open the door"

    You're not paranoid, you have a guardian angel watching over you.

    Borther, I'm on your side, I'm sure you're a nice person, one that would help me if I was in trouble. God bless you.

    BUT SWEET JUMPING BUDDHA ON AN ATOMIC POWERED POGO STICK_-WHY WERE YOU OPENING THE DOOR????

    NO, YOU ARE NOT PARANOID- YOU ARE NOT EVEN REMOTELY CYNICAL/MISTRUSTFUL ENOUGH!!

    Borther, they were doing everyting but holding up a sign reading "We're about to whack your @$$!"

    Glad you came through okay...but being too parnoid is the last thing you need to worry about.
     
  24. Zundfolge

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    After you call the cops and baracade yourself in for the night, call your neighbors ... they should know these guys are out there too.
     
  25. cracked butt

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    If the hairs on the back of your neck stand up and you get a twinge in your gut, listen to these signs, they are usually right.
     
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