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Am I doing it wrong?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Spec ops Grunt, Apr 7, 2011.

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  1. Spec ops Grunt

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    Went to shoot my 4-inch Speed six yesterday, now the web of my hand is sore. Was using a two handed hold high up on the revolver, like in the Jerry Miculek videos, but still.........

    It was just standard 125 grain factory loads too.
     
  2. Spec ops Grunt

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    I think I was locking my elbows, was that it?
     
  3. Sam1911

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    Does the web of your hand wrap up over the frame "horn?" You may be being bitten by the hammer as it reaches the rear of its travel.

    Empty the gun, and take your normal grip. Then dryfire slowly, watching the hammer instead of the target or the sights. Any contact? Could there be if your grip shifted slightly?

    If this is just sort of a "soft hands" issue where the frame is rubbing you a bit raw, take a few days off to heal up but then keep at it. Your skin will callous a bit and you'll never notice it again.
     
  4. MMCSRET

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    I had the same problem with a Security Six that I bought a couple years ago. It had a beautiful set of Herrett Shooting Stars on it, normally they are my favorite after market grip. On that SS they placed my hand all wrong, they hurt, trigger guard hit my, web strained. I replaced them with a set of Hogue one piece walnut smooth and it made all the difference. I use Herretts on Colts, S&W and Ruger single actions but not on the Security Six.
     
  5. Drail

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    Locking your elbows will transfer the energy up through your elbows and shoulders. Are you describing pain that is down in your hand or are you showing a "strawberry" where the hammer comes back? It sounds like the frame above the grip was slamming back into your hand in such a way that some nerves in your hand were getting pummeled. Do any other handguns cause this for you? You might have to modify your grip slightly and not hold up so high on the grip frame or have the hammer bobbed a little if that's what is getting your web.
     
  6. Spec ops Grunt

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    Its not hammer bite, it feels like what post #5 describes.
     
  7. Drail

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    If it is smacking the palm of your hand hard enough to leave you in pain after shooting you are probably suffering some nerve damage. You absolutely do not want to do this, it can leave you in pain for a very long time. Do the grips on the gun leave the metal backstrap exposed? Some grips will cover and pad the backstrap (a little). It does sound like you are attempting to grip the gun a little too high. Shooting gloves are another consideration. Whatever you decide, don't let this gun hurt your hands. I have damaged mine from using tools over a lot of years and it's no fun. It gets worse as you age.
     
  8. Spec ops Grunt

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    Backstrap is exposed.
     
  9. doc2rn

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    I would reccomend getting a Hogue monogrip for that Security Six, I have them on all my Revolvers that I shoot regularly.
     
  10. Guillermo

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    I too am a fan of the Monogrip.

    It might solve your problem.
     
  11. Drail

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    I agree with doc2rn's post. I have been a big fan of Hogue grips for many years. Many people say that they are really ugly (who cares?) but they do cause you to have a consistent grip which is a good thing. The Hogue Mongrip for the Rugers has a very pronounced hump at the top of the backstrap. Keep your hand below that hump and don't try to get up on it. Let us know if it helps you.
     
  12. Guillermo

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    I get razzed all the time because I have them on my Python.

    And they are right...it is...errr...incongruent with the elegance of the gun.

    But I have that baby to shoot...not set on a pedestal under a glass dome
     
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    I'd go with Pachmayer Grippers; Much more comfortable than Hogues IMHO. That's what I had on my Speed Six that I wish I still Had.
     
  14. sixgunner455

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    jrod, it depends on your hand and what suits you. I hate Pachmayer Grippers on a Kframe. Hogue monogrip in rubber on a round butt k is great. Hogue monogrip on a Detective Special works well, too. I've used a rubber boot grip on a square butt Kframe and been very happy with it, too. But I found the Grippers unusable.

    Guy needs to try some different things out and see what makes his hand happy.
     
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    Either the pistol doesn't fit and it is moving in your hand, the surface is slick and it is moving, or the pounding on the web from the steel backstrap is causing the pain. Getting a set of Pachmayr grips, the ones that cover the backstrap, will address all 3.
     
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    Another option is use 158gr instead. IMHO, the 125gr stuff has a harder slap than the 158s.

    I can shoot heavier stuff longer (I won't say "all day") in relative comfort; the 125s hurt - and that's out of a GP100, Sp101 or Smith 28.

    Q
     
  17. Drail

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    Your gun will thank you also shooting 158 gr. loads instead of the 125 gr stuff. I never understood the logic of lighter bullets.
     
  18. Guillermo

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    more velocity makes hollow points more like to expand
     
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    Hogue, or any similar, is a really good suggestion
    if the shoe fits, wear it, don't worry about looks

    mostly I suspect that exposed backstrap is unfriendly for OP, leastways with a 125 gr wt 357 load, or could be his grips are not true perfect flush tight fit at backstrap, have seen some aftermarket panel grips that didn't cinch down completely tight/smooth at backstrap, and that is pretty critical no matter what made of

    just trying on a shooting glove, (most any non-slippery glove from wallyworld would do, cutting off glove trigger finger optional), would be a quickie way to find out, paying close attention to how your hand feels before stacking up a high round count
    if the glove works out, then could hunt up some other grips of choice for the gun

    ultimately, it could be as simple as putting a little more "handle" on it
     
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    Went shooting again, it is smacking into the web of my hand. If I get a Hogue grip would it actually be pleasant to shoot? Or should I just go and trade it for a nice auto in 9mm?
     
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    I would suggest you get some Hoque Rubber grips. I have no problems shooting any kind of ammo either 38 special or 357 magnum. This is in my Police Service Six.
    Howard
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    Guess I'll try them. The regular grip on the Speed six is pretty small.


    Midway has Rubber and Nylon, does it matter which one?
     
  23. Drail

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    Most folks prefer the rubber but some don't like the tackiness of it. The nylon are preferred on a carry gun so that it won't cause the covering garment to catch and print. It sounds to me like maybe you should relax your wrists and elbows just a little and let them absorb some of the recoil impulse. If you're locking all of the joints it's going to hit you harder. You kinda got to roll with it some. Are you shooting one handed or two?
     
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    I like to alternate.
     
  25. Lucky Derby

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    Do not give up on the Security-Six
    whether a particular grip will help you is a question no-one can answer with certainty. Everyone's hand is different. I like the Hogues the best. A lot of people like the Pachmeyers. Another option is to find a set of the original factory target grips. Those work well for many people.
     
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