Amazingly Dumb Quotes by Anti-Gun Folks

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These are comments from the recent concealed carry bill in WI passing the Senate. Hopefully it passes the House and is signed into law by the Governor shortly.


http://www.biztimes.com/blogs/milwa...xecutives-are-not-embracing-conceal-and-carry


Many executives are not embracing conceal and carry

Posted on June 15, 2011 1:33 PM

The Wisconsin State Legislature is on the verge of enacting a law that will allow Wisconsin residents to conceal and carry weapons.

Several executives responded. We share their thoughts here to help all employers weighing their options as the bill becomes law.



Quotes from the story:


1.) H. Carl Mueller, president of Mueller Communications Inc., Milwaukee: ".....“We already carry concealed weapons. We believe the pen is mightier than the sword, and we all carry pens. .....”


- Well, good luck with your "pen" when a rapist/murderer/robber shows up.


Also, hopefully someone intent on shooting the place up or killing people will see your "No Guns" sign first and turn away as that sign is obviously much more of a deterrent then the thought of life in prison after murdering people.


I believe he means we created laws with our pens.


So when the rampaging killer comes in he can say, "Hey, stop. We made murder illegal, you must stop now!"



Reminds me of this:





2.) Jaime Maliszewski, president of RPW Inc., Milwaukee: ".....and there is no need for protection, as only our people are allowed in the plant.”


- Well, "our people" maybe the one who comes in to shoot the place up. Ever hear of a "workplace rampage"? ie.....post office shootings by post office employees (thus the term "Going Postal"), a fired or disgruntled employee or whatever type of employee. Don't expect just because they are an employee doesn't mean they can't be the one to cause a rampage.




And one smart quote:


"Nowhere do academic theories dissolve faster than during an encounter with violent criminals."

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1.) H. Carl Mueller, president of Mueller Communications Inc., Milwaukee: ".....“We already carry concealed weapons. We believe the pen is mightier than the sword, and we all carry pens. .....”

Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword obviously never encountered automatic weapons -- Douglas MacArthur
 
Carolyn McCarthy, in reference to what a "barrel shroud" was and why it was dangerous.

She stated, and I quote:
"I believe it is a shoulder thing that goes up"

Priceless.


EDIT: DoubleTapDrew, If the pen is mightier than the sword, who do actions speak louder than words?
 
She stated, and I quote:

Quote:
"I believe it is a shoulder thing that goes up"

This must be a reference to a BAR- or M14-style shoulder rest. Why does that make the gun any more "evil"?
 
The only reason the pen is mightier than the sword is because you can use it to influence others to wield swords for you.
 
Wasn't the original, "Beneath the rule of men entirely great, the pen is mightier than the sword"?

Is anyone "beneath the rule of men entirely great"?

I think we need a bit of context here to convey what seems to be the original meaning.
 
I'm sitting in the Roosevelt National Forest, back against a tree, taking a smoke, sipping at my canteen, .22 rifle across my lap.

Blonde girl, one of four Birkenstock-shod-steel-rimmed-glasses types comes along the trail, spots me, eyes widen at my rifle, and says, "Oh! You've got a gun. Are you going to shoot me?"
 
How about a line from the WI assembly floor vote on the CCW bill in 2001? From Spencer Black (D-Madison): "People carrying guns could shoot nuclear reactors and cause an explosion."
 
The only reason the pen is mightier than the sword is because you can use it to influence others to wield swords for you.

EXACTLY!

Pens (and the internet) can be used to convey ideas. Swords and guns are only tools used to implement those ideas, good or bad. A tool is something that makes it easier to do work. It does not do the work on its own. It requires a user with intent.
 
How about a line from the WI assembly floor vote on the CCW bill in 2001? From Spencer Black (D-Madison): "People carrying guns could shoot nuclear reactors and cause an explosion."
This guy needs to take some time off and go back to school... A basic physics 101 class at minimum, because his ignorance shows. Reactors are highly guarded, and the containment vessel is designed to withstand a very close tactical nuclear strike. And if we can build a rifle that can do what he said, it needs to be banned.

As for the other guy, well, when the facade here crumbles, he can survive off his pen and I'll just stick with my M4.
 
Strykerbet I know what your saying about the containment vessels but they say it knowing full well that the regular people are still terrified about the Japan crisis and to those people it's probably a good point.
 
Employee training and orientation has asked new hires to report "Gadsden flag" or "Molon labe" stickers to HR as this is a possible sign of militia activity. Yes I work for the government.
 
"People carrying guns could shoot nuclear reactors and cause an explosion."

Never thought about that. What's the daily bag limit? :neener:
 
At orientation for McDonalds (I work drive thru) they said NO WEAPONS OF ANY KIND.
I asked then if they provided armed security. He just have me a puzzled look and moved on.

I still bring my pocketknife though, technically more a tool than a weapon, and it helps opening/trashing those darn fry-boxes.
 
Spencer Black (D-Madison): "People carrying guns could shoot nuclear reactors and cause an explosion."

this does not prove that the good people of WI shouldent have ccw's, but rather he shouldend have a spot as an elected official.
 
I live in Wisconsin and can tell you that:

  • I've never used a pen to physically defend myself from an attack. I would still feel better armed using my LCR.
  • I've driven past nuclear power plants and have never been compelled to shoot at them. Even if they make me mad (which they don't).
  • There are some really stupid business leaders and politicians here with no clue as to how CCW works.
 
I think its safe to say that group of words that escape the mouths of the anti's can be considered amazingly dumb.

One recent comment comes to mind...

Sen. Charles Schumer of New York. “We need to redouble our efforts to keep violent firearms out of the hands of these traffickers.”

So according to Schumer the mechanical devices are violent and the mexican drug traffickers are not.


I rest my case.
 
1.) H. Carl Mueller, president of Mueller Communications Inc., Milwaukee: ".....“We already carry concealed weapons. We believe the pen is mightier than the sword, and we all carry pens. .....”

- Well, good luck with your "pen" when a rapist/murderer/robber shows up.
Also, hopefully someone intent on shooting the place up or killing people will see your "No Guns" sign first and turn away as that sign is obviously much more of a deterrent then the thought of life in prison after murdering people.
I've heard this mentality repeatedly from people saying "Concealed means concealed." People who have it in their minds to have guns in spite of signs are going to have guns. Why make a law preventing it?
2.) Jaime Maliszewski, president of RPW Inc., Milwaukee: ".....and there is no need for protection, as only our people are allowed in the plant.”

- Well, "our people" maybe the one who comes in to shoot the place up. Ever hear of a "workplace rampage"? ie.....post office shootings by post office employees (thus the term "Going Postal"), a fired or disgruntled employee or whatever type of employee. Don't expect just because they are an employee doesn't mean they can't be the one to cause a rampage.
Satisfied and sane employees don't go on shooting rampages. Good management assists with the former, and good medical insurance assists with the latter. Working on those two will bring much more benefit than simply allowing people to carry guns in hope that they can interrupt a shooting, but no one likes talking about the hard problems.

And one smart quote:
"Nowhere do academic theories dissolve faster than during an encounter with violent criminals.".
Quotes like "There are no atheists in foxholes." often have a way of saying something that you didn't expect.
 
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