American Gun Laws

[KodiakBeer]

Now when I heared this it really makes me want to go USA(and I wanted to go before).I'll fill out green lottery form

I'm looking forward to having you as a neighbor!

 

[Birch Knoll]

Other than Illinois and New Jersey, no state requires that you obtain a permit before buying arms. In Illinois, it's a one time thing where you get approved for the card. In New Jersey, you must obtain a separate permit for each gun you purchase.

Oh, no, that's not even close to right. Take a look at these charts: http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/Federal/Read.aspx?id=74

 

[Montenegrin]

Rail Driver
I read this.I have friends and cousins who went to American and they also explained me what is procedure.But I need to move somewhere,out of this hole.
It's corrupt and led by mafia.They are terrorizing country for 20 years.For 20 years they do money laundering ,drug dealing and selling our coast to Russians and Albanians.
Average man here monthly gets 200 Eur (266 USD).That is very bad.They eliminate every journalist who writes about their terror (even in foreign countries).We have laws f****d up for just about everything.I gotta get out of here and go anywhere else before I go crazy.Sorry for off-topic,I just had to say that

 

[mortablunt]

Well, if you want to get started on coming here, then you can get started here: http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis

 

[Strykervet]

all i can say is...WOW !!! You are luckiest people.I have to pay 30-100eur(40-130 dollar) tax when I want to buy a handgun and to go to court where they decide will they allow me it (and they keep money).For rifle or shotgun it's 60 EUR tax.Concealed weapon carry and open carry is not permitted.And we have big yearly taxes.That's why most people (and I formerly) are owning some illegal firearms.Now when I heared this it really makes me want to go USA(and I wanted to go before).I'll fill out green lottery form

Note that while it is better here than other places, it is included in our Constitution in order to secure our democracy in case our governement gets out of control or no longer fulfills its oblibgations but refuses to step aside. It is also a great deterrant to foreign invaders. Who wants to invade a country where more than half the citizens have small arms on par with our own military, who in turn have the best weaponry in the world?

But as a means to secure this democracy from foreigners from the inside, I think you have to go through certain steps to purchase a firearm as a non-citizen. You can come here legally and get a VISA and all that and then they will let some foreigners purchase firearms. I'm not well versed in this, but I have seen the questions on papers before. Not just any foreigner can come here and legally purchase a weapon, there are a few hoops to jump through.

But from the sounds of it, you have less hoops to jump through here as a foreigner than you do as a citizen of your own country. Also, you can fire all military cartridges here, I know in a lot of countries you can't use NATO or WARSAW ammo. There are few restrictions, and we have a legal soup regarding what is legal and not legal, but for the most part I have few complaints

 

[Montenegrin]

@Strykervet it is not only for the guns.Take a look at the my post above

 

[KodiakBeer]

In Alaska, even a non-citizen can legally carry a gun without a permit. My wife has been here for many years as a resident alien, yet legally carries a gun in her purse without a permit of any kind. You don't need to be a citizen, just a legal resident in most states to buy (and carry) weapons.

 

[RevolvingGarbage]

Montenegrin,

Get over here! Try Florida out of you make it. The weather is great, the gun laws are more than favorable (registration is ILLEGAL, simple to get a permit to concealed carry, keeping a gun in your car is easy and almost as good as on your person), and don't even get me started on the girls!

 

[Deanimator]

Ohio has no licensing or registration of gun owners.

Ohio requires a license (Ohio, or a recognized credential from another state) to carry a CONCEALED handgun, or to carry a handgun (or loaded handgun magazines or speedloaders) in a vehicle. An Ohio Concealed Handgun License MUST be issued to an Ohio resident who meets the requirements (ie., an Ohio resident who is not a prohibited person - proper age, not a convicted felon, or domestic abuser, or adjudicated mentally incompetent, etc.).

There are NO gun laws below state level. Cities, counties, etc., cannot create their own licensing or registration requirements.

 

[Montenegrin]

I'm pretty sure anywhere on planet is better than there is.I would like happy times to come,with no pollution,no mafia in goverment and more natural areas protected.It was wonderful country just about 40 years ago,but now people don't have any chances in it.So I guess it's time to move westward,USA looks so good to me
offtopic again

 

[Deanimator]

I'm pretty sure anywhere on planet is better than there is.I would like happy times to come,with no pollution,no mafia in goverment and more natural areas protected.It was wonderful country just about 40 years ago,but now people don't have any chances in it.So I guess it's time to move westward

There was a recent article in the publication "Shotgun News" which in part discussed the 19th century requirement that all adult, male subjects of the Kingdom of Montenegro own a "Gasser" type revolver.

 

[Montenegrin]

Yes,good old Gasser.I'm pretty sure that with 40 grains of blackpowder behind 300 grain ball they did not feel underarmed.

 

[mortablunt]

Yes,good old Gasser.I'm pretty sure that with 40 grains of blackpowder behind 300 grain ball they did not feel underarmed.

And you're in luck; you can buy them here. The bad news is that they cost about 1200 Euros.

I'm pretty sure anywhere on planet is better than there is.I would like happy times to come,with no pollution,no mafia in goverment and more natural areas protected.It was wonderful country just about 40 years ago,but now people don't have any chances in it.So I guess it's time to move westward,USA looks so good to me

Do I hear a bit of Osteralgie?

 

[Midwest]

The place that few talk about, Czech Republic

People often mention Switzerland as the best place in Europe for gun rights. If that is the case, then the Czech Republic might come close. You are allowed to conceal carry there. While there are background checks and permits, qualifications and such. The gun rights compared to the rest of Europe (other than maybe Switzerland) is very good.

(The below is from Wiki and should be OK to paste here without copyright issues under the
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_Czech_Republic


"Unlike most European countries where permits to carry a concealed weapon is only issued to individuals who demonstrate a specific reason, in the Czech Republic it is a common part of the citizen's right to own guns and every holder of the category E license is allowed to carry a concealed weapon after the formal approval is given (no justification is needed)."


"There is currently no regulation on other type of weapons such as knives, pepper sprays, batons or electrical paralyzers. These weapons can be freely bought and carried (concealed or open) by anybody above 18.[25] The age is required by the Commercial Code. Similarly as in the case of firearms, it is prohibited to carry these guns during demonstrations and mass meetings."

"Among popular guns is Vz. 58. While the full automatic version requires exemption by police, which is rarely given (for example in case of extremely dangerous occupation like transporting large sums of money), the semi automatic version can be easily legally obtained."

"It is acceptable to defend from a violent attack anywhere on the street especially when a person is attacked with a knife or another deadly weapon. Shooting an unarmed attacker also occurs and becomes sometimes a subject of controversy.[16] However several incidents from the past few years have showed that the Czech courts are moving towards more liberal interpretation of the self defense and tend not to charge people who defended themselves with any crime."

"The American style Castle Doctrine is also not applied however it is usually considered acceptable to defend from a violent home invasion with a firearm."



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[Loosedhorse]

and possibly Massachusetts (correct me if I'm wrong here).

No correction--you're right.

all i can say is...WOW !!! You are luckiest people.

I sincerely appreciate your words, and absolutely I do consider myself to be fortunate.

But the current gun rights in this country had very little to do with luck.

 

[dogrunner]

That's right, Horse, those rights have everything to do with armed rebellion!

 

[hermannr]

I'm pretty sure anywhere on planet is better than there is.I would like happy times to come,with no pollution,no mafia in goverment and more natural areas protected.It was wonderful country just about 40 years ago,but now people don't have any chances in it.So I guess it's time to move westward,USA looks so good to me
offtopic again

Hej! I would love to have you as a neighbor, but I must caution you as others...some states are more "free" then others. As a green card alien (I was one in the 60's) some states treat you as a citizen when it comes to firearms, some states do not. do your homework on where you really want to live if you manage to get that green card.

You absolutely DO NOT want to live in IL, HI, NY, NJ, MD, MA or CA. Montinegro is a beautiful mountain country...you might like AZ, NM, NV, ID, MT, OR or even here in WA.

 

[bikemutt]

It brought back memories to hear what Montenegrin had to say. Not to dramatize here by any means but I left a country who's hallmark, in my opinion, was corruption.

Corruption in government is the fastest way to place shackles on a free man. As hard as that may be to believe, you only need to live it to be convinced.

I feel so blessed to come here, to live and work here, to marry here, to be free here. Then to be granted stakeholder rights as a citizen. If I wasn't an American, I'd want to be one.

OK, back to guns now

 

[NG VI]

Have you heard anything about the State Partnership Program between the Montenegrin Army and the Maine Army National Guard? Have done some photo work when they came over, was fun.

Did not realize the country had such trouble, I'm sorry to hear it.

 

[bergmen]

Oh, no, that's not even close to right. Take a look at these charts: http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/Federal/Read.aspx?id=74

I'm surprised at the NRA-ILA but this is fraught with errors as far as California is concerned.

1) Under "Gun Ban" it says: California bans "assault weapons", .50BMG caliber firearms, some .50 caliber ammunition and "unsafe handguns."

"Assault weapons" needed to be registered with some defined features that are not legal on certain guns. "Unsafe handguns" are NOT banned, they cannot be sold from a licensed FFL if not on the "approved list". All other handguns can be sold on consignment only but are not "banned".

2) "State Waiting Period - Number of Days" (Handguns): California: 10 days; sales, transfers and loans of handguns must be made through a dealer or through a sheriff`s office.

Loans are legal without the involvement of dealers or Sheriff's office. I've never heard of a transfer through a Sheriff's office, don't know if that is a process or not.

3) "State Waiting Period - Number of Days" (Longguns): The waiting period does not apply to a person holding a valid permit or license to carry a firearm.

This is untrue in California, there are no exemptions to the 10 day wait unless it is an LEO acquisition.

4) "License or Permit to Purchase or Other Prerequisite" (Handguns): A permit is required to acquire another handgun before 30 days have elapsed following the acquisition of a handgun.

There are no handgun purchase permits in California. One cannot (unless LEO) purchase more than one handgun in any 30 day period.

California: Must have Handgun Safety Certificate receipt, which is valid for five years.

True, but CCW holders are exempt.

Dan

 

[Ben86]

I was a bit curious about gun laws in USA.I saw on wikipedia,that some states (New Mexico for example) do not requires state permit to purchase guns.Does that mean that in some states for pistol/revolver purchase you don't need any licences at all?

Correct. In most states you just have to be old enough to buy one, a resident of the state, be able to produce a valid photo ID and not be a felon.

Get this, in some states you don't enough need a license to carry a gun in public! In most others you can get a liscence easily if you are not a felon or have a recent violent misdemeanor charge. I love America.

 

[230RN]

Montenegrin said,

Rail Driver
I read this.I have friends and cousins who went to American and they also explained me what is procedure.But I need to move somewhere,out of this hole.
It's corrupt and led by mafia.They are terrorizing country for 20 years.For 20 years they do money laundering ,drug dealing and selling our coast to Russians and Albanians.
Average man here monthly gets 200 Eur (266 USD).That is very bad.They eliminate every journalist who writes about their terror (even in foreign countries).We have laws f****d up for just about everything.I gotta get out of here and go anywhere else before I go crazy.Sorry for off-topic,I just had to say that.

...and...

bikemutt said,

It brought back memories to hear what Montenegrin had to say. Not to dramatize here by any means but I left a country who's hallmark, in my opinion, was corruption.

Corruption in government is the fastest way to place shackles on a free man. As hard as that may be to believe, you only need to live it to be convinced.

I feel so blessed to come here, to live and work here, to marry here, to be free here. Then to be granted stakeholder rights as a citizen. If I wasn't an American, I'd want to be one.

OK, back to guns now.

Both sound like that's the way Mexico is heading...

... and yes, indeed, "back to guns now." I firmly believe that were it not for gun ownership here in the US, we would be heading that way, too.

 

[Montenegrin]

You absolutely DO NOT want to live in IL, HI, NY, NJ, MD, MA or CA. Montinegro is a beautiful mountain country...you might like AZ, NM, NV, ID, MT, OR or even here in WA.

You are absoulutely right!NM and AZ seems really good to me.
Now back to guns.
I know that in America you can buy black powder cap and ball revolver without any registration or so.Now,I have a question.Can you carry replica black powder percussion revolver concealed or open without permit issued?I know that in some states you can open carry all weapons without permit,but so far I know only Arizona allows you to carry both concealed and open without permit.

 

[armoredman]

I read all the talk of permit-to-laws and such, and am always glad I live in Free AZ. Edit, Alaska, Vermont and Wyoming are also Constitutional Carry states.

Come to AZ, and have a job waiting for you - we hire on permanent resident status.

http://www.azcorrections.gov/adc/employment/Jeff_ADCCareers.aspx

 

[Bobson]

Does that mean that in some states for pistol/revolver purchase you don't need any licences at all?

Hell, I was surprised when I found out that in some states you do need a license/permit to buy any type of firearm. Thought it was a lie or misinformation for sure. Never lived in a state where you needed anything other than proof of residency and money.