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American Non-Union Firearms & Ammo

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Hoffy, Mar 22, 2010.

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  1. Hoffy

    Hoffy Member

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    Are there any firearms manufacturers producing weapons within the United States whose workers are not unionized?

    I know that Colt, Remington, and Winchester are all union shops.

    Ruger?
    Henry?
    Smith & Wesson?
    Others?

    What about ammo manufacturers? Winchester and Remington (see above) are union shops, but what about CCI and Federal?
     
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  2. Old Fuff

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    Ruger moved his production facilities to Arizona to avoid a union. So far as I know they don't have one now.
     
  3. gearhead

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    Winchester hasn't been a union shop since the USRAC plant was closed in 2006. All US-made Winchester products come from the non-union FN plant in South Carolina.
     
  4. lawson4

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    The same plant that makes the Winchester Model 70 makes the FNP series of handguns and SPR rifles; non-union.

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  5. Owen

    Owen Moderator Emeritus

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    CCI and Federal are both owned by ATK, unknown if they are union.

    Colt is a union shop.
     
  6. Owen

    Owen Moderator Emeritus

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    oh, and winchester ammo, and winchester guns are different companies. The gun are non-union, the ammo may be.
     
  7. swiftak

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    Old Fuff, Ruger is also in NH
     
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    I believe the Remington plant in NC is non-union
     
  9. cavman

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    a rifle I have is RRA lower (they may be considered assemblers)..don't know, but highly doubt

    a couple of .45s are Rock River Arms....don't know

    the AR upper is White Oak (again, parts)....don't know, but doubt.

    .45s are Caspian (parts). Made in America....don't know

    Ammo is Missouri Bullet....don't know
     
  10. hso

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    C'mon folks, it's one thing to try to figure out what shops are union and which aren't, but getting into politics and love/hate for unions just isn't going to fly. If you don't want your posts deleted stay on topic.
     
  11. trickyasafox

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    I know in the mid to late 70s colt also got their steel from a union shop (crucible steel out of CNY) my dad worked there. up until 75 or so he said you could get a discount on colt firearms because of the affiliation.
     
  12. TexasBill

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    Beretta is made in Maryland, which is not a right to work state. A machinists' union tried to organize there in the late 1980s but was unsuccessful and I haven't found any record of an active trade union at the plant. However, Beretta is a major sponsor of the Union Sportsman Association.

    Smith & Wesson doesn't have any union employees according to their most recent 10-K filing.

    What's the big deal about union members making firearms? As long as it's a well-made gun, who cares?
     
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    I'd agree--if union workers are making a superior product at a competitive price, they will thrive. It's the American way.
     
  14. Ky Larry

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    I try to buy American made ammo and firearms. Unions are the business of the workers and management. Does it really matter? Also, IIRC, Ruger moved to Arizona because of the local taxes, but I may be mistaken.
     
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    A recently retired Ruger employee posted over at rugerforum.com not too long ago. He was asked some questions about QC issues some posters had encountered. One of the things he posted about was labor-namely the difficulty of working Mexican immigrants that don't speak English well.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that Kel-Tec is non-union.

    Glad to hear about S&W, I thought they were unionized.

    Does anyone know whether Glock's American facilities are union-free?
     
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    Um, the Madison NC location Is an office complex, containing the corporate headquaters and if i remember correctly no production facilities. on the "employment" section of the remington website the NC Office is listed seperate from the manufacturing jobs.
     
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    You're right, my mistake - must have been thinking about the plant in KY - (close enough for gov't work)...:D
     
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    Smith use to make a very nice firearm. It's a shame you need to speak spanish to work for Ruger.
     
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    (Quoted noise...--Sam)
    I don't believe the merits, or demerits, of a union shop have been brought to bear here. The OP was asking for reasons known to himself. His reasons may or may not be the same as mine, and it doesn't matter. Maybe in some political forum the aspects of this can be better discussed in depth
     
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  21. Sam1911

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    Perhaps, so. This is not the place. Does anyone have any further factual answer to the OP's question, or are we done?
     
  22. Nugilum

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    The benefit to identifying the OP's question is what?

    I'm at a loss for the benefit of learning / knowing this.
     
  23. Hoffy

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    I intentionally stayed away from the politics...hoping to get the Joe Friday 411 (just the facts).
     
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    Why does it matter if it has any benefit to you??

    Thinking it must also matter to you is extremely narcissistic. It must have some interest in the op, and that is all that matters.
     
  25. Nugilum

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    Narcissistic? lol :). I was wondering why would it matter if a firearm is made by a unionized or non-union plant?
     
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