Ammo availability

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quote: "Agreed in principle but it's all relative to how much people make; if you have the $ and you're out of ammo, play capitalist."

I have nothing against free markets (usually) and I have nothing against capitalists.

However I do have something against fear mongering and stupidity. For ten years I have read excuses why ammo prices jack up, " because the Iraq and Afghan war", because metal prices are going up", "because inflation", "because Obama was elected" and so on.

While that may be true to a extent, what I really think it is mostly is gun people's fear, and certain within the gun community who profit perpetuating fear.

If people would just say no to buying for a while prices would go back down to pre levels, pre 2008 levels maybe. I went to the range a couple weeks ago and the range was pretty empty, probably because most can't find ammo or won't buy the most premium ammo to practice.

But fear is being perpetuated making people believe they must buy ten years worth of ammo or they never will be able to. The people who wipe out Walmart then sell it on gunbroker for three times as much love that.

I can understand the first month after this situation that happened but now it is becoming more apparent that politicians aren't willing to pass draconian laws but what do I read from some posters?. 'Oh don't believe it it still might happen, get it now or you'll be sorry...buy buy buy now!"

As far as what people make I don't care but I hate seeing shooting become a rich man's sport. It is one thing to see a box of 375 H&H mag at a high price, but when crap Wolf .223 is being sold at $1 or more a round?, frankly if people just refused we would get back to a affordable situation sooner and the gougers would stop hording.

There is no way I am going to pay $20 for 20 rounds of steel cased or generic .223 , I don't need to shoot that bad. So I will do my little part and not buy right now until prices become more reasonable again. But like many other things, once a seller gets a taste of bringing in high profit, they resist as much as possible to sell low again demand or not.

My company, in 2008 when gas first spiked at $4 a gallon, we added a $1.50 delivery charge. When gas went back to $2 months later do you think the fee ended? No, it became permanent because that was a nice little extra charge that didn't want to be ended. So when gas went back up again , the company raised the charge to a $1.75. When it went back down again do you think the charge was lowered to $1.50 again? No the $1.75 stayed.
Amen brother, just saying that the market dictates prices - things are worth what people are willing to pay fort them. Fear mongering and gouging indeed suck, and the only way to avoid them is to extract ourselves from the equation.

BUT…damn it I want to shoot, sometimes I run out of ammo and sometimes I like an empty range (not always, but sometimes).
 
Just got back from my local Gander Mountain. They had lots of most calibers in stock. I was looking for .45 ACP, 230 gr. FMJ, and they had a shelf FULL of Remington l45ap4 (well over 100 boxes) for $24.99/50. That's as good a price as I've seen online recently, and most online retailers don't have it in stock.
 
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