Ammo shortage article on local news, stock up now!

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Looks like more price increases are coming!
(Like THR members didn't know this!)

http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6809953

SUMTER COUNTY, SC (WIS) - The war in Iraq is causing a battle for bullets at home. That's because the demand for ammunition at war is stretching our supply in the Midlands.

The Sumter County Sheriff's Department just got the practice ammunition it ordered eight months ago. Cpt. Frank Thompson says, "We've been told because of the war that they just don't have the product."

The Army's need for small caliber ammo that is often used by law enforcement has more than tripled in recent years. The demand soared to 1.5 billion rounds in 2006 from 426 million before the start of the war.

Filling big numbers abroad is stretching the supply nationwide and in the Midlands. Last month, shipment delays forced Sumter County to cut its qualification course by more than half.

Officer trainees shot 25 rounds - opposed to the usual 60.

The captain is now placing orders one year ahead of time to avoid another crunch. Cpt. Thompson says, "When it first started we had to postpone training until I could find emergency supply ammunition that we had to order out of Georgia."

And WIS News 10 found the ammo strain stretches across the map. In Newberry County, training sessions have also been delayed. And Saluda, Lexington and Richland counties are waiting six months for some shipments.

Officials from all departments say they're acting now: buying ahead of time and stockpiling ammunition.

Apart from the slower supply turn around, agencies now find themselves shelling out more for ammo. The price hikes are blamed on the rising cost to make the bullets. The copper and other raw materials used to make the ammo is more expensive than ever.

Sheriff James Metts says, "We're paying three times the price for it."

Sheriff Metts says the 37-percent increase in cost they've seen is putting a dent in Lexington County's budget. Last year $12,500 was set aside for ammunition. In 2007, more than $17,000 was used to meet higher costs and to buy additional ammo in the face of a shortage.

Sheriff Metts says, "Fortunately, we have supply on hand, but if the war continues - delays, cost. It's going to have an affect on operations."

Perhaps feeling the pinch even more are smaller agencies with smaller budgets.

The price of a case of practice ammo went up $15 this month. It's a lot for the West Columbia Police Department. Sgt. Scott Morrison says, "If it would skyrocket price-wise, we would have to limit the number of ammunition amounts we shoot."

And cops aren't the only ones making adjustments. Local gun shop owners are also dropping more for ammo.

That means it's more expensive for customers too. Tony Ashby of Tony's Gun Shop says, "They going to shoot a round, it's going to cost them 20 bucks when in the past it cost them 10 bucks."

Military ammo and weapons have been popular because mass production made them cheaper and they're good for target practice and hunting small animals. But, Ashby says, "All ammo going to be increase prices."

A recent letter from a major manufacturer says costs are going up again in September, a trend that will continue to impact the pockets of consumers and the operations of officers left waiting for the tables to turn.

Reported by Angie Goff

Posted by Chantelle Janelle
 
Yesterday a gun store employee said they have been told to expect another 15 percent increase by Sept.

Personally I doubt I'll be buying any more factory ammo.

I feel sorry for shooters on a limited budget that have to pay these inflated prices.
Hint, collect all your brass and sell it to reloaders. You can reduce your cost by 1/4 or more. Better yet, reload yourself and shoot for 50 percent the cost of factory ammo.
 
Plenty of Ammo available here in Oklahoma City and surrounding areas. In particular 7.62X39 and 5.56 NATO which lots of shooters are complaining is in short supply can be had by the case at the MilSurp store I buy at and at a good price.

Maybe some boob in shipping screwed up and it's all coming to OKC instead of the 5.56 going to the Army and the 7.62X39 going to Al Quaida in Iraq... :evil:

Seriously though - another price increase wouldn't be surprising. The demand for copper, tin, and lead has increased over the years and will continue to increase as China modernizes its economy.
 
"Sheriff James Metts says, "We're paying three times the price for it."

Sheriff Metts says the 37-percent increase in cost they've seen...."

He's my sheriff; he's not a math major! :D
 
"Sheriff James Metts says, "We're paying three times the price for it."

Sheriff Metts says the 37-percent increase in cost they've seen...."

He's my sheriff; he's not a math major!

Haha. Nice.

I better go run and buy my .40, 7.62x54R, .30-06, 22LR, 300 Win Mag, etc because I know that the military is going to start picking up all those casings and ammo too :neener:

Its the inflation our dollar is seeing competing with China, India, Europe, etc for precious/semi-precious metals. Thats whats driving up ALL gold, silver, copper, brass... oil, plastics, rubber, etc. Iraq has MAYBE a 2-4% effect on overall cost. The rest is our inflating dollar not competing on the world market thats driving the rest.

The only ammo that could be impacted would be NATO rounds. Civilian manufacturers could care less about the military using ammo as there are only a few places that have Military Contracts... those companies are cranking out tons :D
 
The only ammo that could be impacted would be NATO rounds. Civilian manufacturers could care less about the military using ammo as there are only a few places that have Military Contracts... those companies are cranking out tons

That's my thinking as well.

I have no problem finding 1000 rnd boxes of 7.62x39....
 
They ran a story very similar to this in Raleigh a couple weeks ago on WRAL. I don't think the ammo shortage is getting significantly worse at the moment.
 
THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!

Now everyone run out and buy more to increase the demand and make the shortage worse!

Nothing brings down prices like increased demand. :rolleyes:
 
No, but stories like this help in jacking the prices. Wally raised it all again in the last week or so. On the bright side, I can't afford the gas for the usual number of trips to the range, so I have been shooting less.
 
all good points. Remember, however, that this is one area and the article is poorly written. I question the validity of such news.

If the police are paying $15 for 100 rds of 9mm, which is an assumption (just like the assumption that the war is causing the prices to go up) then 60 rounds costs about $10, whereas the 25 rds that they've switched to is about $4. Ok, so where I'm from we throw a LOT MORE MONEY at police training, so $6 isn't a huge problem....

I thank God that the news in your town is related to ammo prices. In my town it's been nothing but news about a chemical plant explosion and evacuating the whole town due to chemicals that burn paint off of cars and kill people after 6 hours of exposure. I got back to my house after being evacuated on Wednesday, my truck which sat in my driveway the whole time, had all it's paint still. All the birds were still chirping and the grass was still green. I guess that maybe the media just kind of made up all those horrible stories about deadly fumes.... oh, I'm 4 blocks from the chemical plant that exploded, the map on the news showed me in the very center of the "fallout zone" and well, I'm still here writing this....next to my 6 lb dog who sat through the whole thing for the better part of a whole day before the evacuation.

In fact, I just got back in from the garden and the mosquitos are just as thick as ever. Darned mosquitos can live through anything I guess.
 
Rural King a farm and home store is having a "bag" sale this week. 20% off everything you can fit in a large paper grocery bag. They furnish the bag. You may need the coupon off the internet, but they haven't asked for one the 2x I've been.

I bought 3000 rounds of 9mm, 1500 22. caliber, and had room for a little more. Ammo selection may vary locally. I may go back tomorrow for another bag. They have a fair selection cheap ammo and other stuff. If one's nearby it's worth a visit.
 
The only ammo that could be impacted would be NATO rounds. Civilian manufacturers could care less about the military using ammo as there are only a few places that have Military Contracts... those companies are cranking out tons

Not quite accurate
Lead is running around $1.50/lb as opposed to $0.40/lb a year ago
copper has risen even more
All of these costs will be passed on to us regardless of the caliber you shoot or reload for.
Thats why prices for formerly cheap ammo like Winchester white box or American Eagle are jumping $3.99/20 last year up to 7.99/20 now
Yes demand helps this inflation but the price hikes for metals are real due to demand from China and India
 
The big three are running military ammo. So there is little ammo being made for the domestic market. Add inflated costs, big demand, shortage of stock and the price goes up.

I have read on various posts guys saying BS there is no shortage. My local beer and gun shop has full shelves of ammo.

I say if your local shop does not have at least one five acre size warehouse stacked to the rafters with ammo you do not have a clue as what is going on.
 
Tony Ashby of Tony's Gun Shop says, "They going to shoot a round, it's going to cost them 20 bucks when in the past it cost them 10 bucks."


Twenty bucks a round? Wow, what are they shooting? :rolleyes:
 
Silver bullets of course.

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The only ammo that could be impacted would be NATO rounds. Civilian manufacturers could care less about the military using ammo as there are only a few places that have Military Contracts... those companies are cranking out tons

Hmmm, all local suppliers are feeling a pinch on powder and primers as well.

Last weekend, Sportsmans Warehouse had a lousy five boxes of primers. That's all types of primers combined.

It is not the supply side, it is the demand side. It is impacting powder as well.

Loaded ammo is being impacted by the supply (price) of primers and powder as well as the prices of copper, brass and lead.

Hard to repeal the law of supply and demand. :)
 
I sure am glad I reload.:D I currently have several thousand rounds of 40 S&W ammo loaded, a couple thousand 357 magnum rounds and a case of primers + 8 lbs of Unique. I'd say I'm good to go.:D I don't worry about factory ammo prices, because I don't buy factory ammo.:neener: I've also got plenty of 7.62x39 on hand for the SKS, no worries here.:D

If there is going to be another price increase in September, then I'll be ordering another case of 7.62x39 before that happens.:D
 
I was at the West Columbia range where I always go, earlier in the week - plenty of LEO's in there practicing. (Actually had me worrying when I saw the results of their efforts. :eek:) There is no shortage of 9mm or .45 acp in two out of the three counties mentioned that I have seen. Unless they are not allowed to buy it at Wally World.
Price has gone up there in the last few weeks though. Up to $11.97 for 50 rounds of Blazer Brass .45 acp and $15.72 for 100 rounds of 9mm in WWB.
Starting to look into taking up reloading as a cost savings measure.
 
Yeah I'm really going to have to start getting into reloading. I think buying the equipment and learning about it is going to be my project for next summer.
 
Actually the ammo prices at Cabelas have been steadily decreasing every week...Its kind of odd right now because of demand my .40 S&W ammo is alot cheaper than .223 centerfire. Id recomend we just start shooting more .22 rimfire, any non 9 millimeter hand guns, and pistol carbines as these ammo prices have changed little.
 
When Hillary is sworn in on Jan 20, 2009 there should be an immediate glut of ammo since we won't have any troops in Iraq and Afghanistan any longer. The bad news is that civilians will be banned from buying it because they won't need it for guns they no longer allowed to own.
 
We had almost the same exact article in a local paper here. The Asheville Police dept. said they were having difficulty getting ammo and training in their budget, although they said they did have enough duty ammo. The Sheriff dept. said they were stocked up. Apparently thought ahead.
 
Yesterday a gun store employee said they have been told to expect another 15 percent increase by Sept.

Will it ever go back down once the supply is back up, or is it like gas, where once we become accustomed to paying more, they will just keep it high because they can?
 
I guess that its time that your local law enforcement agency purchase a nice Dillon 1020 reloading press and start reloading their practice ammunition.
 
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