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Amnesty's Amnesia

VIEW FROM THE RIGHT

Adam Sparks, Special to SF Gate Monday, June 9, 2003

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Scores of brutal regimes around the globe routinely maim, torture and commit summary executions of its prisoners, criminal suspects and political opponents. Many of them imprison and torture children or put them on the front line of wars and terror campaigns.

The torture that occurs around the world, best symbolized by the terror conducted within Saddam Hussein's fallen regime, is a prime example of humans' continuing inhumanity toward others. But the savage cruelty -- eye gouging, nail pulling, electroshock therapy, severing of limbs, gassing, use of mechanical shredders on live prisoners and employment of children in armies -- is not limited to a few nations. The barbarity is widespread.

It should come as no surprise, then, that Amnesty International chooses as one of the world's most terrifyingly repressive nations the United States.

Don't be surprised. What you had thought is a beacon of freedom and economic opportunity for millions around the world is in reality a hate-filled nation that condones terror, permits capital punishment, sells arms and conducts torture. At least that's what Amnesty, the respected human rights organization based in London, and the appeasement-Left crowd thinks.

The capitalist press has apparently duped you if you actually think America is a liberator and a nation that has fought totalitarian regimes throughout its history. Wrong. The millions seeking freedom each year, risking their lives and meager fortunes to get to our shores, are merely chasing a myth.

Forget countries such as Africa's Sierra Leone, which has been nearly totally destroyed by armed conflict in recent years. Rebel forces have abducted, mutilated, tortured, raped and killed civilians. Government forces have done the same. Both sides have also used children as combatants.

And other nations, such as Iraq, have imprisoned children as young as 8 years old.

Now, comes Amnesty, which has just released its 2003 report, which states that confirmed or possible extrajudicial executions or otherwise unlawful killings occurred in 42 countries last year. They include: Argentina, Brazil, Burkina Faso, Burundi, the Central African Republic, Colombia, the Ivory Coast, the Dominican Republic, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Ethiopia, Fiji, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, India, Indonesia, Iraq, Israel, Jamaica, Kenya, Lebanon, Liberia, Macedonia, Madagascar, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nepal, Nigeria, Pakistan, the Palestinian Authority, the Philippines, the Republic of Congo, Russia, Rwanda, the Solomon Islands, Sudan, Thailand, Uganda, Venezuela, Yemen and Zimbabwe.

But this is by no means the entire list of rogue states. Others simply engage in the more run-of-the-mill torture: live amputations, eye gouging, electric cattle-prod therapy, executing children as their parents look on, etc. Amnesty maintains a running list of 106 states that engage in torture -- including the United States.

The leftist credo of Amnesty, which declares the United States bad and leftist totalitarian regimes good, has now infected what was once a respected human rights organization. Its leadership has been taken over by a cabal of activist leftists with a political ax to grind. How else can you plausibly explain an organization so intent on repudiating America for daring to take down totalitarian regimes? These are the governments that condone the real torture and brutal oppression of their own people. This is theoretically the very stuff Amnesty allegedly opposes. We don't see too many other nations stepping into the role of liberator.

Amnesty¹s members spend considerable time wailing and gnashing their teeth about alleged torture crimes, but when a powerful nation actually takes action to bring these dictators to justice, they just wail and gnash their teeth some more. At this rate, they won't have much in the way of teeth left to gnash.

The Amnesty report charges that "the U.S.-led war against terrorism is sowing fear and danger in the name of security across the globe and denying basic rights to those who have been arrested." Well, duh. We hope so. Amnesty may not be aware that there is an international terrorist war going on. Perhaps it hasn't been reading the newspapers for the past few years. We're supposed to be "sowing fear" -- fear among al Qaeda, terrorist organizations, assorted armed wackos and the rogue regimes that support them.

Amnesty also says the United States "continued to deny international recognized rights to people arrested in the context of the 'war against terrorism.' Thousands were detained from the war in Afghanistan in defiance of international law." Double duh. The war is not over in Afghanistan; our troops are still there. Should we return Afghan prisoners of war to their caves to rearm, or should we simply send them to London so these trained al Qaeda fighters can assist Amnesty in its struggle for human rights?

Cuba's Club Med under Attack

The crybabies at Amnesty continue: "Conditions in Camp X-Ray and, later, in Camp Delta, gave cause for serious concern. U.S. forces also held hundreds of detainees in Afghanistan, or in undisclosed locations." Camp X-Ray is a tropical Club Med compared to the barren, blistering-cold mountain caves these fighters operated from. Now, they're getting shoes (something many of them never had), clean clothing, warm Cuban sunshine and three squares a day. Sounds plenty tough. The only thing these prisoners are missing is the simple pleasure of smoking some fat, hand-rolled Cuban stogies. Amnesty staffers should have it so good.

The report adds that more than 600 detainees are still being held at Camp X-Ray, at the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, "without being charged and without legal assistance." Yeah, that's right -- they want every al Qaeda member to be represented by Johnnie Cochran: "If the turban don't fit, you must acquit." Amnesty's battles against worldwide torture and killings by brutal regimes must be over if they have the time and energy to be pointing accusatory fingers at the world's greatest crime fighter.

The effects of the U.S.-led war on terror have been "far reaching," Amnesty says in its report. "Far from making the world a safer place, [the war] has made it more dangerous by curtailing human rights, undermining the rule of international law and shielding governments from scrutiny. It has deepened divisions among people of different faiths and origins, sowing the seeds for more conflict." Here we go: While our president has said that al Qaeda's leadership is decimated and on the run, the Left says the opposite. The United States, by beefing up security, has had to hurt the feelings of would-be terrorists and their sympathizers. It's a real tearjerker. Quick, get the hanky.

The Left, never having wanted to wage a battle against terror, has been calling the war against terrorism a failure even before it started. It now has reached a verdict: The world is worse off because free nations have the temerity to defend themselves. The imprimatur of Amnesty has now given the Left's war on America the Good Housekeeping seal of approval.

Amnesty Secretary-General Irene Khan said it is important that "we resist the manipulation of fear and challenge the narrow focus of the security agenda." Narrow focus? What narrow focus? If you're not protecting your freedom to survive, freedom from fear, there is no other focus. But because Americans overwhelmingly believe our security is the nation's No. 1 priority, that laserlike concern is now an international crime that Amnesty needs to report at press conferences.

Putting killers to death upsets Amnesty

Amnesty hates capital punishment, too, and it continues to press its attack on the United States with more lefty rhetoric. This time, it complains about the fact that we put serial rapists, cop killers and heinous murderers to death. "In 2002, 69 men and two women were executed, bringing to 820 the total number of prisoners put to death since the U.S. Supreme Court lifted a moratorium on executions in 1976," the organization reports. So what? Now that we finally get to mete out justice after decades of defendants' appeals, at huge expense to the taxpayers, we're now guilty of international crimes? Give me a break.

Just in case you weren't getting the message that freedom-loving democracies are under attack by so-called human rights groups such as Amnesty, here's the kicker. The organization also says that "although the human rights crisis in Israel and the occupied territories is among the issues most discussed, it is the least acted upon by the international community." Lemme see: I guess suicide bombers, supported by terrorist regimes, which target civilians on nearly a daily basis, don't rate much these days. I don't recall hearing about the Amnesty press conferences over those daily terrorist murderer bombers. Yet the world community apparently needs to condemn Israel for merely defending itself. Yeah, right. Apparently Israel's self-defense, involving uprooting terrorist cells and the villages that support them, is futile; it would only generate another report about "human rights abuses."

In other words, politically left-leaning agendas are OK as long as they're carried out discreetly and under the guise of "human rights." The human rights brigades share an ideology that only barely masquerades as human rights but is heavily laden with leftist dogma. It's an ideology that opposes democratic nations that either fight in their own self-defense, as in Israel, or that try to bring the torch of freedom to despotic nations such as ours. To groups such as Amnesty, these are "crimes against humanity" that merit a lot of investigation and hoopla. However, the support of tyrannical states and roving bands of "underdog" terrorists is basically no problem.

I think this is true for several reasons: Amnesty is sympathetic to the goals of the murderous groups that terrorize nations such as Israel. The Amnesty Web site wears its political ideology on its sleeve. It still refers to Israel as the aggressor and the West Bank as occupied territories. That's provocative.

Also, despotic nations have no free press, so it's hard to get the facts, but not in democracies. Democracies are open societies, so many human rights groups seem to find many more incidents of really bad things going on in these nations.

Amnesty Tearjerker

One example spoken about in a call for action on the Amnesty Web site is a request to protect the headache-relief rights of a terrorist collaborator. Here's what the organization had to say: "Asma Muhammad Suleiman Saba'neh, a 40-year-old resident of the Jenin refugee camp and mother of six children, was arrested by the Israeli army on 11 February 2003 and placed in administrative detention without charge." Sounds pretty frightening. But it gets better: "Until the beginning of this year, Asma Saba'neh was symptom-free but then began to suffer from severe headaches and edema. No diagnosis could be made by X-ray examination, and her doctor recommended a CT scan, which she still has not received."

So now Israel has to offer expensive, high-tech CT scans to deal with every headache terrorists claim they get while under detention? That's quite a grievance Amnesty is busy trumpeting from its London digs. Why bother ridiculing the organization, when it does such a good job of making a joke of itself? Israel is now supposed to jump at every headache symptom? What is Amnesty thinking, that Saba'neh checked into a five-star resort? What kind of medical treatment would she be getting back in the ol' refugee camp? What's more, readers of the Amnesty Web site are urgently asked to write to the prime minister of Israel about this case!

To understand Amnesty, listen to not only what's said against democracies but also what goes unsaid against despots and terrorist organizations. For example, neither al Qaeda nor Hezbollah are listed in Amnesty reports or on its Web site as organizations that Amnesty have any problem with, but the United States and Israel are listed. That's the human rights game. That's all you need to know.
 
Howdy, Agricola!

Do you have access to the actual report? What did it say?
 
sure:

the amnesty report is here:

http://web.amnesty.org/report2003/index-eng

it does list abuses of human rights committed by nations across the globe - including so-called "leftist totalitarian regimes" (which the author ignores when he says The leftist credo of Amnesty, which declares the United States bad and leftist totalitarian regimes good).

where abuses exist then they should be highlighted - which is what Amnesty does. the fact that it has the temerity to point out abuses committed by Israel and the United States does not make out that

"Just in case you weren't getting the message that freedom-loving democracies are under attack by so-called human rights groups such as Amnesty, here's the kicker."
 
If you follow the url to the article, there are links contained within the body of the article- which is not the first to point out Amnesty's slant.
 
Hey Ag,

Why don't you and Amnesty International, and Medicins sans Frontieres, and those boys in the baby-blue helmets, just come on over and find out exactly how regressive some of us can be?

Meanwhile, we will be busy cleaning up the mess that your retrograde empires created.
 
Well, I just read the report and I'm not upset by it. AI's major bitch is the detention of the "enemy combatants" at Guantanamo, that is nothing new, and I've got a few questions about it myself (not criticisms, but questions). They complain about detentions and treatment of citizens and foriegn nationals after 9/11. I have some questions there too, as I do with the whole Patriot Act) They also mention "police brutality" and the death penalty. Both of those topics get a lot of discussion in my local newspaper, and I assume yours too. I will have concerns about AI's opinion of the US when they have the ability to do more than bleat. Maybe when they get nuclear capability.

And where did they identify the US as a "terrifngly repressive nation"?

So where's the beef?
 
"Far from making the world a safer place, [the war] has made it more dangerous by curtailing human rights, undermining the rule of international law and shielding governments from scrutiny. It has deepened divisions among people of different faiths and origins, sowing the seeds for more conflict."

Yes, that sounds like a pretty fair and accurate description.:rolleyes:
 
What you had thought is a beacon of freedom and economic opportunity for millions around the world is in reality a hate-filled nation that condones terror, permits capital punishment, sells arms and conducts torture.

Yeeeea! That's my kinda country! Rock n' Roll baby! :cool:
 
LOL wondernine!

Sounds good to me, maybe this horible, brutal country we've got going will scare these weenies enough to keep them the hell out!
 
Funny, but the inflow of folks not worried about repression in the U.S. is just a wee tad greater than the outflow of folks who are all upset over it.

I don't see how the death penalty is repressive. If you don't do murder, you don't have to worry.

I don't see how holding enemy combatants who either shot at or killed our people is repressive. Seems like common sense, to me.

I've ridden with cops on patrol; I've occasionally socialized with cops. Haven't seen a bunch of repression. Granted that most of my "criminal" interactions have been relatively minor traffic infractions, I've been treated courteously, even back in my hot-rodding daze.

I agree with those who don't like the body of law and the method of enforcement (at times) of our War on Drugs. And I don't like a lot of the Patriot Act stuff. However, AI was whining about the U.S. long before the Patriot Act.

And I'll bet more folks move here from Yurrop than leave here for t'other side of the Atlantic.

:), Art
 
Here's a simple fact about Amnesty International.

As long as there are independent nations in the world, AI will declare them to be repressive.

As long as nations punish individuals for the crimes they commit against individuals and societies, AI will declare them to be repressive.

As long nations uses court proceedings that convict an individual of a crime, AI will declare them to be repressive.

Over the last 20 to 25 years I've watched with not just a little concern as AI's agenda has moved farther and farther to the right.

The agenda these days rests largely on a platform of individuals are not, cannot be, and should not be, responsible for their actions.

Government/nations, however, are the root of all evil in the world today, and have no right to sit in judgement of their people.

Cut me a :cuss: ing break.
 
And your point was, Malone?

That the United States is burying hundreds of political executions in mass graves?

Fact is, it simply doesn't matter to AI anymore. The leftists who have seized control of AI over the past 20 some years have lost all sense of perspective, and all credibility.
 
mike,

but thats the point. nowhere does AI state that the US is committing genocide, it just points out what the inidividual country has been doing where it (AI) considers that the country has breached its (AIs) definition of human rights. where does it say in that report that leftist-country X is ok whereas free-country Y is a repressive state?

read the AI report into China, or Vietnam, or North Korea, or any of the other "workers paradises", or Iraq, Iran, or Saudi Arabia, or Zimbabwe, the Ivory Coast or the DRC. you cannot plausibly state that the US has been singled out for unjustified complaint.
 
That's the point...we shouldn't be singled out at all, especially when viewed in the same light as nations and regimes that continually demonstrate a most heinous disregard for human rights and civil liberties. With all of our warts, we remain the last, best hope for mankind. This simple fact infuriates the left as it has done for the last hundred years.

Agricola...come to America, stay for two weeks (or longer). I guarentee that your perspective will change. You can stay with me and mine...I'll even take you to Yorktown where we turned the world upside down. :cool:
 
Article 9

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

Article 10

Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.

Article 11

1. Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.

2. No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed
Those are the pertinent sections of the UN Declaration of Human Rights that apply to our detention of foreign nationals in Cuba.
We're obviously not in violation of Article 9, since we arrested them for being unlawful combatants-certainly not arbitrary! Article 10 deals with events which will occur in the future, should permission for a trial be given. We can't be in violation of something which hasn't happened yet, but is planned.
Article 11.1-How do you interpret this? Does this mean that every accused person should be granted free bail and released on their own recognizance? Anyone in the civilized world can see that that idea is patently ridiculous. Yet this is the standard that Amnesty holds us to.
11.2 Deals with criminality, yet never specifies what laws apply. Criminal according to whose laws? Afghanistan's?

These guys were unlawful combatants. They are being treated in such a manner. Amnesty has no more authority behind their interpretation than the US does, which makes their claim rather useless.
 
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