Animal Liberation Front - the next terrorist threat?

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The article below, coupled with the actions of ELF and other extremist organizations in the USA, makes me think...

From the Telegraph, London (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...t17.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/07/17/ixhome.html):

US animal rights fanatic in Britain vows to break law

By Daniel Foggo

(Filed: 17/07/2005)

Animal rights extremists gathered secretly in a Kent field yesterday to hear an American activist declare: "We will break the law and destroy property until we win."

Dr Steven Best, a philosophy professor and exponent of the Animal Liberation Front, told about 200 activists at the International Animal Rights Gathering 2005: "Now communism is dead, we are the new spectre in the world. We are named as the number one terrorist threat in the US and UK. Can you believe it?"

He added: "We are not terrorists, but we are a threat. We are a threat both economically and philosophically. Our power is not in the right to vote but the power to stop production. We will break the law and destroy property until we win."

He compared the animal rights struggle to the fight against slavery. "We are abolitionists. We don't want to reform them [vivisectionist companies], we want to wipe them off the face of the earth. We will fight, and die if necessary, to free the slaves."

Despite the Government's insistence that it is tightening measures to prevent foreign extremists who support criminal and violent acts from entering Britain, Dr Best is being allowed to give such speeches unchallenged.

Dr Best, who describes himself as a "sympathiser" of both the ALF and the Earth Liberation Front, both of which are listed as terrorist groups in the United States, believes that violence is morally right if the cause is "just".

The Government, which announced on Friday that it would seek to introduce laws banning the endorsement of terrorist acts, is also sponsoring a Bill to criminalise the kind of economic sabotage carried out by the ALF.

Yet Dr Best was espousing his views yesterday with the Government's permission. Last August, the academic narrowly avoided being barred from Britain after David Blunkett, the then home secretary, sent him a letter saying he was "minded to exclude" him, drawing attention to Dr Best's history of supporting the ALF.

Dr Best, who teaches at the University of Texas in El Paso, replied that he supported the ALF, but denied that the organisation was violent.

"Because they attack the property of animal exploiters and never the exploiters themselves, I consider the ALF to be a non-violent organisation," he wrote. He was later told he would be allowed into Britain. Three other advocates of extremist action, Dr Jerry Vlasak, Pamelyn Ferdin and Rod Coronado, who all received similar letters, were barred.

A Home Office official said: "We took the view that he wasn't violent and a threat in the same way as the others."

Dr Best wrote about the decision: "I was somewhat embarrassed for not being militant enough to be considered a threat."

The International Animal Rights Gathering 2005 is being held in a private field over the weekend near Tonbridge. Those attending are being given instruction in unarmed combat and counter-surveillance, and told how to take "direct action" in the name of animal liberation.
 
The funny thing about these guys is that if you look at their rhetoric they seem to mention animals and the environment VERY seldomly. Its pretty clear to anyone who takes a close look that these are simply anarchists wearing the costume of environmentalists.
 
PETA, et al's interest in animals runs only as far as they can gain political power with them. Same thing with the NOW gang. Their interest in women's issues runs only to the political power they can torgue out of us. [remember how Slickster got a free ride from NOW. pardon the pun] I'm sure I could organize a "save the cucumber front" and get a bunch of wackos to blow up pickle plants if I wasn't so busy with this retirement thing I've really gotten into.

Anyone have any idea what the animal wacko's stance is re the guy who was killed "mounting" a horse. I sure would pay loads for a video of that event.

rr
 
My favorite wacko group is...

The Garden Gnome Liberation Front.

I kid you not, they do exist and are in fact listed as a 'terrorist' organisation.
You can't get wackier than that.

-K
 
I doubt this even happened.

The meat related food industry is scared to death over the rise of vegetarianism in the last several years and loss of $$$. I constantly see advertising and spin on this that I am sensitive to as a vegetarian.
Kind of like when we as gun owners hear "single shot full-auto assault revolver".
Don't believe it? Here is an example, page from the Brady Bunch playlist. This website is aimed at 12 year old girls, check it out and then see who pays for the website...

http://www.cool-2b-real.com/
 
The ALF has been plenty active here already; they torched an animal testing area here at Brigham Young University last year, a month after the ELF started a fire that caused $1.5 Million in damage at a lumberyard in the Salt Lake valley. In the former (ironically) animal lives were endangered, and in the latter human lives were endangered. I think the acts of these eco-terrorists will continue to escalate, and they need to be dealt with now.
 
Rod Coronado
Not mentioned in the article is the fact that Coronado has received multiple thousands of dollars from PeTA, and that Ingrid Newkirk, head of PeTA considers him a "nice young man."

Now, last time I checked, "nice" isn't a word that I would use to describe people who burn down buildings.

Environmental nutwhacks have been getting more extreme in their acts of violence. Just because they destroy property doesn't mean they aren't terrorists.

Central Texas- I see nothing offensive about that ad campaign website. Now, compare and contrast the link you posted with the PeTA ad campaign a couple years back entitled "The Holocaust On Your Plate." Ya know, the one where PeTA compared pigs to the Jewish victims of the Nazi Holocaust?

Yeah, they Godwinned that one real good.
 
Never said the link was offensive-

just an example of an industry getting to young minds & not being upfront about it.
Illegal activity is a problem and maybe not the best solution, no argument.
CT
 
"Dr Best, ....... believes that violence is morally right if the cause is "just"."

Where have I heard that line of reasoning before?
:uhoh:
 
I detest animal rightists more than anyone but I'd have to agree that these guys are nothing more than organized vandals so far. He can say anything he wants over here but I am not so sure about over there. Can't he be charged with unwillingness to submit to authority or something like that?
 
Interesting...I wonder how many look at firearm enthusiasts and the NRA
as extremist groups. I have my NRA sticker on the back window of my
truck, and I'm most always catching someone in my mirrors or when
I look out the back window in traffic staring or at least glancing at the
sticker sometimes shaking their heads and looking away.. ;)
 
Interesting...I wonder how many look at firearm enthusiasts and the NRA as extremist groups.
While many no doubt do look at us that way, we're not exactly torching private businesses and places of education to get our point across. That's one of many lines that divide.
 
As far as quotes go-

Love ya, but I can find pro 2A comments on Nazi & White racist websites and I don't think it represents everyone that donates and volunteers their time for animals. As in every group where passion is involved there are extreme elements that don't represent the whole.
CT
 
just an example of an industry getting to young minds & not being upfront about it.
Right, whatever. It would be an exceptionally stupid kid who couldn't see the print right there on the front page that says in bold, sans-serif print "Sponsored by America's Beef Producers."

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So since the beef producers are "taking a page from the Brady Bunch playlist" you must be really offended that PeTA has done the same with the following orgs and/or websites.

GoVeg.com
MassKilling.com
JesusVeg.com
Lettuce Ladies
Fur is Dead
Circuses.com
CowsAreCool.com
HelpingAnimals.com
HelpingWildlife.com
Stop Animal Tests
Iams Cruelty
AnimalActivist.com
Animal Savings Club
Kentucky Fried Cruelty
Running of the Nudes
JLoDown.com
TaxMeat.com
FishingHurts.com

Wow, talk about shady marketing.
 
There is a difference

in being subtle and being upfront when dealing with children. PETA isn't subtle are they?
My problem is PETA is pretty upfront about their outlook on reasons of personal conscience. Whether you agree with it or not.
Their industry opponents seem to have no problem with distortion, half truths and lies.
IF PETA really gives money to ELF or ALF and they are proven terrorist groups, why has the Government not taken them down?
I'm waiting for the posts/internet rumors etc. to start here as usual about PETA so I will address them now.
Ingrid Newkirk makes millions instead of helping animals with it- easily debunked her salary is public record, under 100K.
PETA kills animals in their shelters. True, not every animal can be saved, rehablitated or sheltered. It would also take the budget of NASA to do otherwise
PETA is against people having pets, still can find no credible evidence Newkirk said it. By credible I mean an actual newspaper or magazine interview etc.
Yadda Yadda Yadda
Oh and before someone writes PETA=People eating tasty animals followed by a smiley face -don't, there isn't anyone on the planet who hasn't heard it.
I don't mean to sound like an apologist for PETA but I admire their compassion and drive. I may not agree with the methods though.
What's my issue? Well I work with animal rescues. I see dogs burned with cigarettes for fun, I see stolen Labradors and Retreivers used to train pit bulls to fight here (special place in hell I hope). There are over 100 animals killed in Austin every week because of our throwaway societal attitude- upset about child abuse? Wonder where that sort of disregard for life comes from. I see pet food companies (we love your pets!)do cruel experiments where test beagles gums are made to rot away to test a new pet food. I just find it amazing how from the NRA to American food industry partners they try to make PETA such a evil to hunters etc. Have ANY friends PETA turned into vegetarians against your right to hunt? Few and far between if any. What burns me is they cause ALL pro animal folks to be broad brushed as anti-hunting or anti-gun etc.
CT
 
Love ya, but I can find pro 2A comments on Nazi & White racist websites and I don't think it represents everyone that donates and volunteers their time for animals. As in every group where passion is involved there are extreme elements that don't represent the whole.

Who here was talking about animal vollunteers? Also, has anyone expressed support for Nazi's or white supremecist groups on this thread? You are taking the argument a bit too far IMHO.

We are talking about people who think terrorist acts and destruction of property are the means to their desired end (by their own words). I don't care what they think. They can hold whatever kooky ideas or beliefs they want. Just don't try to force me to agree just because they can't gain an electoral following.
 
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